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[–] [email protected] 197 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I’m glad congressional Democrats are finally taking steps to deal with their sclerotic, ineffective and increasingly out-of-touch leadership and building a future with younger—oh wait.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The thing that made me so pessimistic about the future of this country was when I learned that the people who advised Hillary's 2016 campaign were still advising Harris' 2024 campaign. They failed multiple times and the consequences have been catastrophic, but they held on to their positions anyway. I have no reason to think they won't be back in 2028, because the people who have a say in who gets party leadership are people selected by the old leadership. We need a borderline hostile takeover of the Democrat party, and after Trump did it to the Republicans, the existing powers in the Democrat party only entrenched themselves further.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 days ago (1 children)

the people who advised Hillary’s 2016 campaign were still advising Harris’ 2024 campaign.

And still running the DNC.

Biden and Kamala inherited everything from Hillary, the people behind the scenes are the same, and are still likely listening to Hillary

She's like our Dick Cheney

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'd almost believe that Hillary ordered her people to sabotage the campaign if it wasn't the exact same "centrist" message the establishment Dems have been pushing since Carter.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

She wouldn't have needed too.

The party burns money at an insane rate, and only gets money thru the "victory fund" which (I'm not even exaggerating) is money laundering.

They've been doing it since 2015, it's the status quo now.

Whoever has the keys to that donation machine is the DNC, because they control the money. And because the reason the VF can take so much,his it's taking the limit for state parties they defacto control the state party. If a state doesn't join the agreement, the DNC doesn't support that state. We only have numbers for 2016, but those states average less than 0.5% of what the DNC was supposed to have paid.

We'll see what happens at the 2/2/25 DNC chair election, there's actually a decent chance we keep someone good. But if they get another money hungry neoliberal in there, we have to accept the people who run the DNC no longer represent Dem voters and they're unwilling to listen. We'll have three years before the next primary starts winding up, and it may be finally time to push a third party.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It’s almost as if the gop pays the dems to be stoopid. That would explain a lot.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Replace "GOP" with "corporate oligarchy" and you're getting it!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

same difference amirite

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

But if they get another money hungry neoliberal in there, we have to accept the people who run the DNC no longer represent Dem voters and they're unwilling to listen.

You still haven't accepted it?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago

They failed multiple times and the consequences have been catastrophic,

They succeeded in the only thing that matters to Democratic leadership: They kept a progressive from winning the nomination.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

The mayor from Jaws 1 was still the mayor in Jaws 2.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The future of this country is not in the hands of the Democratic party if this is the way of things.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 days ago

Leadership Democrats: Fumble the ball for three downs, then throws an interception

"Well, its no longer my fault if the opposition scores."

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The democrats still think the populace is smart enough to look at the alternative and choose the less-worse option.

The country proves them wrong at every turn.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago

The democrats still think the populace is smart enough to look at the alternative and choose the less-worse option.

The problem is this attitude and the literally brain dead take that this is in any way strategic voting.

Democrats are a "barely, sometimes maybe not, less-worse option". And they get to stay that way by constantly being presented as the "less-worse" option. But they aren't. They are the enablers of the "more-worse" option every time. They sell out their base at every turn.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Follow the money.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago

The last guy was in his 80s....