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Summary

Donald Trump has exempted himself from key ethics guidelines required under the Presidential Transition Act, which he signed into law in 2020.

By rejecting federal funding for his transition team, Trump avoids donor limits and disclosure requirements, raising concerns about conflicts of interest and transparency.

Critics, including Senator Elizabeth Warren and government watchdogs, warn that Trump’s refusal to submit an ethics plan undermines accountability and could open the door to corruption.

This move marks a break from precedent and has sparked alarm over potential personal enrichment during his presidency.

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[–] [email protected] 309 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

lol. Watchdogs. Hilarious. Let me know when we have a government again.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 78 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

it usually takes 4-6 years or so for democrats to fix most of whatever republciants screw up.

donvict part 1 will take a generation, at least.

donvict part 2 will take a lot longer and require practically-impossible coordination and commitment to get non-republicants to the levels of representation needed for amendment ratifications and impeachments.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The "United" States of America is over.

We're gonna end up with the "Blue States of America" and the "Republic of Jesusland"

[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

you see that's the thing, its not exactly blue stats. its blue city's, islands surrounded by hundreds of miles of red oceans

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Rural/urban divide is not unique to the US in any way whatsoever. Also, expect polarization to self perpetuate as blue voters move to blue states and red states to move to red states.

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[–] [email protected] 138 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

And what are they going to do about it? If breaking the oath bears no teeth, the oath is pointless.

I face more punishment breaking my Paladin oath in Baldurs Gate 3...

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Just like all checks and balances in government, it assumes the branches are somewhat independent and ethical, at least claim to serve their constituents, and protect their own power. It’s up to the legislative branch or the judicial branch

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

One Final Check

State Vs Federal.

Grab your popcorns, because you wont be able to afford it in the future!

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[–] [email protected] 117 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I’d be happy that Trump voters finally got what they deserve, but unfortunately, the rest of us have to suffer the consequences alongside them. As well as the rest of the world.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)

I don't know why, but most of the world voting their political parties into power is trending to the conservative right not towards the progressive left.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Because things are getting more worrying on a global scale (economical slow down, ecological crisis and wars) and the usual human reflexes are conservatism and blaming the people who are different. I think progressive ideas rather spread in times of peace and prosperity, or after catastrophic events like WW2.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

the usual human reflexes are conservatism

Like voting in to power the people causing the economic and environmental issues. It's absolutely mind-boggling how easy humans can be convinced to vote against their own interests.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I think the billionaire class has decided it's better to be in control of government right now so they can use the power of state violence to keep their material wealth. There is an ongoing refugee crisis that is going to affect every single country as climate change makes certain places uninhabitable.

The final battle of the class war is upon us.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Him not signing an ethics pledge is probably the most honest move he did in his lifetime.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's funny how Brazil (a country that's seen the consequences of authoritarianism) is handling their own attempted coup vs the U.S., we are basically welcoming Trump back after everything he's done.

After the coup attempt he should have been barred from office and arrested. This is such a ridiculous timeline.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Societies get the leaders they deserve.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Critics, including Senator Elizabeth Warren and government watchdogs, warn that Trump’s refusal to submit an ethics plan undermines accountability and could open the door to corruption.

Fucking could? It's kinda been proven that he is corrupt and this is the best the watchdogs can do? Where's their teeth?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 weeks ago

Not even kinda proven! It's 100 fucking percent proven he's corrupt. The man was found guilty of 34 felonies. He's been doing this shit literally for decades... Fucking pussies...

[–] [email protected] 73 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Alarm! Concern! Criticism! Hand-wringing!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

Furrowed brows!

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 weeks ago

Those alarms already had the copper wire stolen from behind them.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Opens the door to corruption?

The door was burnt for firewood years ago.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

We have learned (and are still learning) that precedent doesn't mean shit

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The more I see this unfold the more I understand why Trump won. (This is in no way me supporting Trump, the guy deserves the worst this world has to offer!)

Anyways, the establishment and dems are a bunch of toothless liars! If I was some poor chap doing my best to just stay alive in the US I likely also would've have lost hope in my vote mattering. Legally speaking, it quite literally doesn't. The dems regularly shitting on the primaries is a great example of this (and ofc the electoral collage).

Nobody in politics cares about the people. After the 2008 crash, both the reps and dems bailed out all the banks responsible for the mass fraud, while the people that suffered barely got shit.

The vast majority of people didn't vote and some voted Trump out of desperation, wanting any change at all. It's fucking sad.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Trump is America's self-inflicted gunshot wound

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Warren is a good example of someone who does care and I can only recommend her books on the matter. She came from the same place as everyone else and managed to get where she has been for a good while now.

If she'd been president 2016 or any time after that things would've looked a lot different, probably globally, I can almost guarantee as much.

Edit: and by different I mean a lot fucking better, to be clear.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I mean the universe spent years letting us all know this guy was corrupt as fuck.

Americans voted for corruption.

We WANT corruption.

We'll be no better than Russia by the end of our lives. And it will have been no one else's fault but our own.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago

The one thing we can absolutely be sure of is that this dispicable con-man will do all that he can to enrich himself, without regard for any limiting principle or structural restraint.

Its not a question of "if" he "may" be corrupt, but only how brazen the supposed patriots in the Republican party will let him be as he does it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago

"which he signed into law in 2020." You've got to be fucking kidding

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Maybe just maybe you guys should have laws that require this instead of ohbits always been done this way. What a riduclulse country.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 weeks ago

Could open the door? The door was ripped from its hinges already.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago

This is the problem with trying to follow decorum against a fascist.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

could open the door to corruption.

“could”

ROFL!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"Open the door to corruption"? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

“Americans expect and deserve a president who prioritizes the nation’s well-being over personal gain,” she added.

Yeah!

“They will not tolerate a president who abuses the powers of his office to line his own pockets.”

Weeeellllllll....

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago

I’m not surprised, but I am exasperated.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The most blatant act of "rules for thee, but not for me." My brother in Christ, you wrote the act.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I appreciate the rare honesty, I guess. Not like it would change anything if he did it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't let any of them have access to briefings or classified materials. Period. Not cleared, you have no access. You fuckers will do whatever you want after in office, but right now the current administration should not fuck around. Fuck these assholes. Let them catch up later. Its not like it will cause any more damage to our country if they don't have access before then.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

How is this allowed under an act of congress? Oh right, lack of accountability and oversight.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

In how many ways do we need to signal to Trump that he can do whatever he wants, without repercussion?

We're so fucking useless.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

Raise alarms? Could open the door to corruption? Undermine accountability?

Where the Hell have these people been? And anybody who is shocked by these headlines needs to come out from under their rock. None of this is new or news. It’s SOP.

As for accountability and watchdogs? Can you be any more lip service? What is anybody going to do? Ever? They had four years to make Trump and team accountable. Hasn’t exactly worked out.

Wake me when September (2028) ends.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Now he did it. IT'S DONE. WE GOT EM. Donald will finally feel the FULL FORCE of our justice system telling him that they are VERY CONCERNED.

Mark your calendars everyone, we have a new holiday.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

So he chose not to lie this once. Doesn't excuse a lifetime of it

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