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[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Why is anyone considering staying on X?

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Well I mean it's a disease agency. Missinformation on X is bad. Their job however is about getting the word out to people of what to do to avoid diseases. People don't switch networks to follow their favorite health agencies. So... if the job is to warn people about serious shit... it kind of is important to be where the people are currently and try and get the facts heard among the misinformation.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't think the people still on X are going to be listening to the EU disease agency account.

They should (as you say) go where the people are... Which is threads and BlueSky. Follow the crowd.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, they should be where no entity outside of European jurisdiction can influence their messaging.

The EU commission has their own Mastodon instance. That's how all public services should do it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I wonder how long until Xitter does this sort of thing to the EU Disease Information account:

Community Note:

Covid 19 is not real.

I feel like that level of misinformation is now possible there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This makes me want to invoke the remind me bot, but I don't think we have one on Lemmy. I wager that we'll see this exact statememt from fridge-chest when the US gets hit with the next wave of 'rona.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Couldn't you set an alert in your calendar tool of choice with the comment link in the notes or title?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I considered it, but I don't think that future me would care much to go out of their way to inform an internet stranger that their prediction from a year ago was correct.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

The (ideal) most reasonable approach for public information organs, in my opinion, would be to use all the channels that are available - Mastodon, Bluesky, Threads, but also X for the share of people that can't be arsed to move (or don't want to, because the people and communities they care about haven't). I'd even count Facebook, Instagram, Reddit among those channels, as much as I resent those companies, as well as Lemmy and the other fediverse services (I'm not super informed here), a blog, RSS feeds, maybe an email subscription service too, just to be sure.

In fact, I think diversifying your presence would be a great thing in general - platform exclusivity is turning out to be a quite toxic and disadvantageous concept. Well, it has been for a while, but it's starting to become more visible.

The real restriction is of course the technical infrastructure and personell to maintain all these presences. You could use of a content distribution system that takes a picture, a long text and a short summary to generate appropriate posts for all these platforms, but you'd still need people monitoring and responding on the various platforms, ideally people sufficiently familiar with the respective culture to communicate effectively.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

The whole reason Twitter was popular was to be informed by the people you follow.

No one that is still there gives any sort of fuck about correct information, just bail. Stop legitimizing this Nazi bullhorn for God's sake.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's the point then when the important information can't be freely read by the population without a xitter account. It made sense when you could read tweets without forced login, but now is useless

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Never said exclusively... a group warning of health risks etc... should be using every avenue they can.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Shut down the Xitter infection

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I hadn’t used my twitter account in over a year, but today finally deleted all my posts and disabled the account.

I had it for 16 years and thought it’d feel different, but I’ve been so far away from it now I really had no emotions to shutting it down. It was easy, and now I have no ties to that garbage any more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's hard to feel any emotions while severing such impersonal relationships. I would advise you to do it whenever you feel like it's the correct thing to do. Go where the users shine, the memes flow and the owners aren't dipshit billionaires who mine your data, restrict the free internet and pollute your online experiences with conspiratorial nazi bullshit. Be a digital nomad.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

At this point Musk might greet all your health-related updates with a 1000x boost of anti-vax nonsense from RFK Jr and an army of anti-vax bots spewing Nazi rhetoric, then you getting sued and your account banned if you suggest something "fishy" is happening

Fuck this absolute steaming pile of a website and the nutjob that smeared his shit all over it. No government agency should even think of using it for anything regarding public communications

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know about others but I'm there for the porn

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Objectively the most rational reason to be there. It's named X, after all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why did anyone join it in the first place?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

It USED to be a decent source for news and updates on stuff but that's long gone. I deleted my account just before that weird billionaire guy bought it and don't regret it one bit.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 month ago (3 children)

... considers? Just do it. Jesus.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Wowowow.. it's an EU agency... First they need to issue a communication that sets outs a vision for a roadmap to create a framework for an alliance that will create an agenda for the steering committee that will issue a request for a study of merits.

Then they can schedule to do something.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The kicker is that in any member state that'd be politics trying to bury something in procedure, while on the European level it's the only way to get anything done. Leave out a step and the thing just fizzles because noone even knows about it.

...not, I mean, quitting X. But in general.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The EU has been designed so that no one in any position can abuse his (or her) powers or at least make it extremely difficult to do so, with an added layer of mistrust between the states requiring even more checks and balances so it can lead to some ridiculously complicated processes since not much can be done without a majority consensus.

Deciding to leave twitter or not will lead to a barrage of comments from all the countries, so I'm not even surprised that even that decision has to be carefully managed.

I'm poking fun but for all it's flaws the EU has achieved a surprising amount of things.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

You're basically just describing the flaws of democracies.

Yes, the EU can be slow to move on some points, but others they are the first. And they mostly get things right, because they use much time on thinking it through. And no, they're not right every time, but I believe they are more than others.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Firewall block Xitter, then flatten san fran with 30 nukes just to be sure

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Didn't they move their operations to the city of Gridfailure, TX?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Flatten it too, can't be too cautious

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

They have a concept of quitting.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They first have to see our god-king's reaction then act appropriately.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

yeah they can drop a pinned message on X for leaving and mentioned their next platform. But, I don't think Elon will Happy about that

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

What’s he gonna do about it?

Sue them?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Considers? This is not news worthy. This is like showing up to a skin head rally and announcing you are considering friending a black person. Grow a spine and do the right thing.

If your business uses X send a letter to the head of marketing and your ceo asking them to stop or start a petition.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The threads one looks like has posts from 2 days ago so I think it is used.

The Mastodon one says it is an unofficial automated mirror.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Oops. Yeah I just noticed that. Well, Mastodon users can use bridgy to this bluesky account to get latest feeds

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Why not just post to multiple? Its only microblogging. There is even marketing dashboards that let you post to every platform in one place.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

"considers". the human race is very very stupid, and in the end, will be it's own undoing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

It’s not like the crazies from over there will believe anything that agency says anyway, so better just gtfo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

WoW, so brave of the EU.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like RFK Jr won't reinstate it and make it "the official communication channel"?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Good news everyone, the US has control over EU agencies now!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

My bad, the flag mislead me.. Also been poisoned by US politics obviously.