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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Too many people tried using them as hammers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

TNT filler is very stable. It's fine. I mean, the grenades would not be great as hammers, but they won't explode at a touch.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

baseball.

The average American could be expected to already know how to throw a baseball, so it was easier to change the equipment to fit the user than to train every fucking soldier how to throw a lopsided stick.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

That and all the other reasons. The only stick grenades still around in appreciable numbers are anti-armor grenades where the handle has a parachute inside. For normal fragmentation grenades, essentially everyone has moved to non-stick grenades (except the USMC who want to make stick grenades).

Even in WW2, the Germans produced more of the boring looking Model 39 grenades than they did of the iconic and eye catching stick grenades. People notice what they want to notice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

I thought it was American football as the design is more shaped to be more closely resembling a hand held size 🏈

American football was simply more popular back then too, but a little less now in terms of ratio, but the crowd has still grown instead of shrinking/stagnantion

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Because sometimes you need to take out a tank.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

A football is WAY bigger than a grenade, and football was way less popular in the 40s because 1. Baseball came first and 2. Baseball is better in person and TVs sucked. Even if more people play football now, it's still better to design grenades around baseballs because you spend more time practicing with a ball in baseball, and only one person per team knows how to throw a football.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

Oh, they made a football grenade don't you worry.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

In my opinion I think it's more likely for someone to have played baseball then football

Cause football needs alot more prep when baseball can be just a random school activity

Note: I'm not athletic at all and this is just based on my personal experiences

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago

Stick grenades?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I can carry 8 modern hand grenades, or 2 of those things.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

We should use those ball throwers for dogs. Imagine the distance you could get! Then you could have 8 normal grenades and throw them stupid distances.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Ooh good idea. While were at it, why not train some Jai Alai players to be grenadiers.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 hours ago

An atlatl for grenades!

A splatlatl, if you will.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Bcs electricians kept using them as hammers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I thought these linemens looked weird

[–] [email protected] 80 points 8 hours ago (10 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

count to ten

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 hours ago

This destroys the butthole.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

>can give you pleasure

Are we saying blowing stuff up is fun, or telling you to go fuck yourself with a grenade?

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 8 hours ago (13 children)

The Germans did have hand grenades without a stick. Their doctrine was the stick type was for offensive operations, and the little one was favored for defense.

I assume this has something to do with the distance you can throw them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago

Their doctrine was the stick type was for offensive operations

A minor addendum, the M24 and M43 stick grenades both had fragmentation sleeves produced for them. These could be quickly fitted over the grenades to change them from offensive to defensive grenades. Similar to the RGD-33 stick grenades used by the Soviets.

I assume this has something to do with the distance you can throw them.

The difference between offensive and defensive grenades is defined by how much fragmentation they produce. Without a fragmentation sleeve, a German stick grenade produces blast and concussion but very minimal fragmentation, making it's practical danger area smaller. This is good for an offensive grenade where the person throwing it likely has less cover than the person receiving it. A defensive grenade produces fragmentation, and is desired when the person throwing it has cover to hide behind safely.

The non-stick grenade commonly used by the Germans in WW2, was the Model 39 ("egg grenade"), and it actually came in both offensive and defensive flavors. So really, either a stick or egg grenade could be used for either role.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 8 hours ago

Also they're way bigger, taking more space in storage and when in transport

[–] [email protected] 49 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

We have grenade launchers now.

Someone needs to make one that fires the stick grenades. At 3500 RPM.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Once again NCD reinvents the bolter

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Life, uh, finds a way.

The 30mm "Barrett" Pattern bolter, created by MARS, Inc. and Barrett, is currently undergoing evaluations by the US Army.

Everything old is new again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

MARS, Inc? Like the candy bar guys?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Nah it was a collab with the god of war.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Their doctrine was the stick type was for offensive operations, and the little one was favored for defense.

Hmm...defensive hand grenades. There's something crazy I've wondered before; is there anywhere it's legal to use hand-grenades as a form of home defense?

Let's say you live on a big property in the middle of nowhere, like a ranch out in West Texas. So you know that if you detonate a hand grenade on your property, you can be absolutely sure that the fragments won't fly through your walls and hit a neighbor. Let's say you live alone, and you're so stupid wealthy that you don't give a damn about grenade damage in your own home.

Imagine this is true. Is there anywhere in the US you could legally keep a crate of hand grenades in a gun safe, and just start chucking them at a home invader?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It isn't legal to own hand grenades in the US so I would imagine the self defense part would be irrelevant.

Though I'd imagine it they might be allowed if they were legal because you can use, say, your car as a weapon in self defense...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It isn’t legal to own hand grenades in the US

Not correct. It's an 'other destructive device', and is covered under the National Firearms Act of 1934. Each one would require completing a transfer form, waiting for approval from the ATF, and cost $200 for the tax stamp. ...And would then be usable exactly once.

You might be able to manufacture a grenade with an ATF Form 1 approval, but I'm not positive. And, again, it's a single-use item that requires a $200 tax stamp.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Can give you pleasure

Idk, the round ones do just fine for me, just a bit different form of pleasure.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago

I just tie a sting around those little rings so I don't lose the pineapples & can safely pull them out again.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Pineapples are ribbed for pleasure

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