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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 minutes ago

I chalk most of the shit that makes teams horrible, is closely related to electron and their whole web app as a desktop app bullshit.

Buckle up, because they're doing that same enshittification to outlook next. It's already begun. There's a "new" Outlook. FML.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 hour ago

Genuinely the single worst messaging app I've ever used. Worse than Skype, which is crazy because Microsoft owns that too.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 hour ago

No, no! Dogshit sometimes fertilizes and promotes growth. Microsoft teams is poison.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's like a graveyard of companies that Microsoft has acquired over the years. Sharing files is one brand name (Sharepoint if i recall), making video calls is another name, planned events is another - every function has a brand name to it, which made me feel like these were the last remaining trace of long-absorbed companies.

But that's just my recollection, i haven't touched Teams since Covid

[–] [email protected] 1 points 50 minutes ago

Isn’t Teams just Microsoft’s attempt to reinvent Skype for Business as a Slack clone? I didn’t think they’d acquired it (other than acquiring Skype and fucking that up, too).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 30 minutes ago (2 children)

Am I the only one that prefers it to Slack?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 minutes ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 27 minutes ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 hour ago

Microsoft spent billions acquiring Skype only for us to be left with Teams

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I have a Jabra Headset (now retired) that literally has a MS Teams logo on the side and is market as "Teams compatible". As you might have guessed, Teams is the only VC app were I regularly have to switch betwen inputs to get the headset to work during a call.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Every. Fucking. Meeting. Why can't teams just default to my system default.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t care. I’ll take anything that maintains staff meetings from home. Before COVID they were 90% in person.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yup. It’s got a stupid amount of bloat for what it is used for, but it’s aggressively “okay.”

Will take it everyday of the week instead of taking meetings in person.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 33 minutes ago

"aggressively okay" is the best description i've ever head of MS teams

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

We user / have used Slack, Zoom, Meet/Gchat and a VERY brief trial of teams.

We have O365 AND Google Workspaces so we get teams and meet for free.

Zoom is the best to host a large meeting with a split presence. It's the best at dealing with variably poor connections. It shines on being able to share any specific app and sound control.

Meet is the best for small, low-friction meetings. However, it is hampered by its inability to share anything but browser tabs with sound, poor camera control, and poor user display.

Slack is a fantastic, too-flexible chat system with organizational issues. When it works, it works pretty well. However, it has intermittent video and mic problems on many systems. It is not good on poor connections and occasionally not good on fast connections.

Teams is bloated, many systems run it poorly, and there is an unacceptable amount of server-imposed downtime/issues.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 minutes ago

I've personally never had an issue with Slack, mic/video included. My connection has always been solid, though. Never tried on a shit connection.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 30 minutes ago

You can share windows and entire screen with Meet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

Thank you! Finally someone has the guts to say this publicly

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Next you'll tell me the sky is blue.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

If we were on Teams right now I may not have received this snarky message.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The only thing it does better than Slack: A list of all my chats, most recent at the top, without any disappearing or grouped in some weird way. Slack annoys me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I got slack for my college course, I left the group. I have no fucking idea what is going on on that app it was insanity. Seemed like 12 different groups of the same people and sometimes you got notifications sometimes you did not.

It was just a really bad UI and UX.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

I’m annoyed you still can’t do annotations with Teams.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Haha be thankful for what you have. I work at a pretty large financial institution and we still use Skype for Business. There is another messaging app we use but not everyone is granted access to it so I have to use both apps daily.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

You're using teams. Modern teams is built on Skype, which is why it's shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

three trillion dollars

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The biggest mistake was to make it a "hub" for all sorts of other uses in my opinion. It shouldn't be browser based, it should be native and just focus on chatting and calls, that's it. It could be so much faster and intuitive.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

You mean like Skype for Business?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

You mean Lync?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

You dare speak the name of the accursed one??

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Ah, they're all crap.

Came to Teams from Slack, some upsides, some downsides. It's a corporate communication tool, I don't use it because I think it's beautiful and elegant, I use it because I get paid money to use it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I've had limited experience with slack, but the whole way conversations map to workspaces at least got to be confusing to me, and I would have liked an experience based on me as a user, rather than having my user span workspaces and have to juggle them to figure out how to talk to whoever I'm supposed to talk to at the time.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

Unpopular opinion: I actually like MS Teams

Look, I know this might get downvoted, but Teams is... actually fine? Yeah, it's not perfect, but it just works. The best part is that everyone and their grandma knows how to use it because it's the corporate standard around here.

I can't tell you how much time I've saved not having to do the whole "can you hear me? let me try reconnecting... oh wait try updating your browser" dance that happens with other platforms. My company recently switched to Google Meet and honestly? It's been a downgrade. Teams might not be the coolest kid on the block, but at least I'm not spending half my meetings troubleshooting audio and video issues.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

For me "it just works" doesn't ring true. Generally at least once a day, I join a call and it won't let me unmute, and I have to restart Teams.

Scrolling through history is obnoxiously slow.

The activity feed is mostly useless, spammed with stuff that isn't important and it's the only place that vaguely tries to keep track of 'Teams' conversations.

In my company, I've been added to about 70 Teams and it's pretty much impossible to interact with them, so as a result no one does, they all just start ad-hoc chats, since that's the only thing that vaguely gets managed in a way people can follow.

When going cross-organization, it's a crap shoot whether or not we can use text, voice, and screen share/remote control. I know this is generally due to obnoxious company 'security' policies and other solutions have it, but it is a frustration. One recent call with a particularly screwed up company had us on two different meeting platforms at once as well as on an old fashioned conference call, because text was only allowed on one platform, screen share on another, and no audio was allowed on either (despite both supporting all three).

Sure, Teams suffers, in part, because like all corporate tools it connects you to generally dysfunctional work communities. However it broadly does have it's own annoyances.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 hours ago

I hate teams because it consistently doesn't just work

missed notifications, screensharing

i have little use of it and it constantly breaks

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

As with all things in business, good enough is king

I actually don't mind it being web based, there are a lot of web based tools that run perfectly fine and don't use that much resource

Teams is generally stable for me running the pwa in Microsoft edge nowadays too

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