this post was submitted on 08 Nov 2024
224 points (95.5% liked)

Technology

59765 readers
2551 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
all 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 118 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I wouldn't mind having the ability to schedule a reboot on my phone as an extra precaution.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I think graphene does this by default now? Like if you don't unlock it for 24 hours it'll reboot.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago

18 hours by default.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Its an aosp feature i believe, but its disabled on many phones. Graphene and calyx have it. With calyx its default off, but you can set it between 1 and 72 hours. Very handy feature.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Graphene is set to reboot after six hours of inactivity, ensuring that it reboots every night after I've gone to bed.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It probably requires root, but I'm sure Tasker can do this.

Really, all phones should have the option to reboot into locked mode on certain conditions like being taken out of network or being unattended for a while.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

The interesting thing is if the manufacturer is shipping them that way by default.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Could possibly also look at the motion sensors to see if it is in a pocket moving around or if it was sitting around for a while.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Good idea, but a motivated attacker could put them on one of those rocker tables like they use for mixing blood. It also wouldn't cover the more common scenario of someone stealing it out of your hand.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is a shortcut action to shut down the phone which you could trigger with an automation, I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I can put the phone in lockdown by press-holding the power button and select the "lockdown" option. Not bad, but an actual reboot daily at night wouldn't be so bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

GrapheneOS has the option for a scheduled reboot if the phone hasn't been unlocked for a configurable amount of time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Dont know what lhone you are speaking of, but on Samsung phones, the only thing that this does is disabling biometrics and notifications. Your phone stays in AFU and this does not protect you from law enforcement or other

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It protects you from being compelled to provide biometrics to unlock the device. Since the courts have made a distinction between providing a password and biometrics to unlock devices for whatever asinine reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Biometrics are what you have and a password is what you know. I can record you and look at you or even grab a part of your body (e.g., for fingerprints) but it's not possible to read your mind.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's not what I mean, I'm talking about the Shortcuts app:

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

I thought it's a standard feature (auto restart at set times). Maybe a samsung thing and not android.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

GrapheneOS has an option to reboot your phone after being locked for X hours.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Check out GrapheneOS.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hardly ever have I seen an article so full of "could be", "alledgedly", "supposed", "likely", and "probably".

It may be because I have stopped reading about UFO's after the age of 15.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Because they have no actual proof of it, and direct evidence against it. They talk about phones communicating with each other to restart... yet a phone inside a faraday box restarted.

It's almost certainly just a software bug in iOS which is why it's inconsistent.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's also the most unlikely explanation of all, that phones brought in communicated with the ones in custody to reboot them. Even if it was a security feature to reboot phones under certain conditions, which is very likely TBH graphene OS does this, the best implementation isn't going to be relying on other phones randomly passing near by, it's going to be self-managed by the phone that reboots.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

A remote command from some random phone to reboot does sound like the a wonderful vector for malware, though

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That would be super cool if that was a feature instead of a bug because anything that makes law enforcement's job harder is worth praising and doing properly.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

GrapheneOS includes this feature

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It would be nice if this feature did not disable immediately if you turned it off and would require like say 48 hours and two more reboot cycles. That way if a cop took your phone from you and had it and went into the settings and turned the feature off it still wouldn't work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Or just require your Apple password to turn it off.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I just heard this like yesterday or today and so that's absolutely amazing. I don't think lineage has it though, which is sad. Although it is less useful on lineage since you can't re-lock boot loaders.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, LOL. That is literally the only exception to that I know of.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, seems like a reboot every 24 hours you're not unlocked would be extremely useful

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Aren’t iPhones switching from AFU to BFU if you don’t unlock them long enough anyway? Or is BFU not the same state as entered if lock and volume down button are pressed for some time?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

BFU = Before First Unlock
AFU = After First Unlock

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

My phone rebooted occasionally on iOS18 and this was mentioned as fixed in 18.1 release notes so this story sounds plausible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Ha.

This is the only good thing about Apple products. Yes, the only one.