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[–] [email protected] 326 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

"Now that the election is over I think we can finally say that yeah actually Project 2025 is the agenda," Walsh wrote on X (formerly Twitter).

In other words "Damn right we lied to everybody! Thanks, suckers!"

I guess there's no need to even bother wearing the masks any more. Racism, misogyny and bigotry won the day. Handily. Republicans turned out in droves to sign up for more of it, and Democrats have said they're willing to accept it rather than elect a black woman. At that point, why even bother hiding it. Everybody knows what it is, and last night they said in pretty decisive fashion that they either actively want it or are at least willing to accept it.

We did this to ourselves. Trump made some small gains, but Harris underperformed Biden by roughly 10% or so. That means millions of Democrats sat home instead of voting for Harris, which also cost the Democrats some House and Senate seats downballot due to the lower turnout. There was no election fraud. This was a free and fair election. Trump won the popular vote. There are no excuses this time. We. Voted. For. This.

8-10 million Democrats stayed home. I don't care if you're "protesting Gaza", or if you're a closeted bigot who would rather sit out than vote for a black woman. Or whatever. If you stayed home rather than vote for Harris, you voted for this. In the words of Rush, "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice". And you made that choice knowing it was a de-facto vote for Trump.

The GOP had a damn good night last night. And they couldn't even wait 24 hours before cramming it right down our throats. They couldn't even wait 24 hours to take the mask off. Give it a couple of days and I figure the national abortion ban will be the next thing they don't bother trying to lie about any more. Why bother trying to hide it? We already said we're cool with it.

[–] [email protected] 138 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Don't forget that the Latino vote for Trump went from 25% to 45%.

The dumb bastards voted themselves into being deported and don't think Stephen Miller is going to have a soft spot for people here legally.

Hes gonna come for them all.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Give those idiots what they want.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago

It blows my mind. But it's the reality. In an ideal world every minority should be against Trump. But this isn't the world we live in. There is a huge amount of immigrants who are coming from ultra conservative society.

Some latino who are well established will happily kick the ladder so that other can't come in.

So it's not super surprising. Homophobia and racism isn't only a white people's thing.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This is sort of beside the point you're making, but a lot of 1st/2nd generation Latinos still look down on immigrants. "We did it the hard way, so they should have to as well" similar to bootstrap mentality.

It's some real mental gymnastics, but I've had several latina girlfriends over the years and some of their families were poor or super well off, but they openly hated Mexicans and/or Puerto Ricans.

That number isn't really that surprising.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

They think they're exempt...lol

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A guy at work today said he wasn't worried about prop 3 failing because he has a medical Marijuana card. Like, dude, you're a brown man on a list of Marijuana consumers and the modern day nazis just got elected and now wield the fbi and DEA with no guardrails. He's fucked and he refuses to see it.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I will note at the rate things are going Trump has like a 85% chance of beating his 2020 numbers and a small chance of beating Biden's 2020 numbers. It's not JUST Harris poor turnout.

(Also her turnout was only bad by 2020 standards, it's still higher than John Kerry or Gore or Hillary)

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

Upvote for Rush

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (11 children)

Mutual aid will be more important than ever, join and build up your local groups if you're able, it will pay off in dividends in the coming years.

This election has only proven how electoralism cannot be relied upon, it's just us now. We need to build the world we want to live in, without corporate influence.

  • Search your local area + 'mutual aid'.
  • Help your local food not bombs.
  • Create a worker owned cooperative with your friends if possible, or join an existing one.
  • Help spread the meshtastic network to build up communication resilience in your community.
  • Plant trees in your community to help reduce the heat island effect for the coming heatwaves.
  • Create or join a community garden near you to bolster food availability and foster connections with those around you.
  • engage in guerrilla urbanism, make your community safer to walk or bike
  • encourage your coworkers to unionize under the IWW, contact them for help on how to unionize your workplace.
  • vote in your local elections to try and have a state or city government that is less hostile to the above actions, but continue to build decentralized power independently of them regardless. Do not make the mistake of handing off the responsibility to make things better to them, it's up to YOU, and your community, and hopefully other nearby communities doing the same, but that is all.

We have tremendous collective power if we just use it, and hopefully this outcome will result in us coming together and building that world in the shell of the old. Collective solidarity is our only solution left.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's all Harris's fault everyone so definitely do not blame the absolute human garbage who didn't vote even knowing the stakes

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

I 10000% blame the Jill Stein voters and non voters

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

But not the 73 million people that wanted this explicitly?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago

Of course those too. Thought thats obvious

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

Most of them at least (misguidedly) think they are doing the best thing for themselves/the country. Non-voters just couldn’t be bothered to take any responsibility at all.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Really? You wouldn't blame the millions of people that explicitly voted for a convicted, fascist criminal?

If Americans had any sense the race would've been between Stein and Harris, not between Harris and someone who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a presidency.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Trump got more votes than every other party combined. I blame the Trump voters.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Be sure to add in the protest non voters. Because all 100,000,000 of them cost us the election in 2016 as well.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

Now that it’s clear that Harris’s really well run campaign underperformed Hillary Clinton, can we finally end the myth that some failing of her campaign strategy or “likability” was the primary reason for her loss rather than sexism and Comey’s shenanigans? It really seems like a very large number of men just won’t vote for a woman in the US.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That's my big takeaway from this election. A well-qualified woman will lose to the most idiotic man possible because millions of men will just never vote for a woman. All of these people in Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Michigan all showed up for Joe Biden, and all vanished for Hillary and Kamala, despite both being better candidates.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I heard a woman I work with, whose boss is a woman say two days before an election "I can't vote for a woman. They are emotional and make petty choices." And I was blown away.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

As the pettiest of all modern or maybe all presidents ever gets elected. LOL

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

I mean, her campaign was pretty awful in a lot of ways. It started out strong but since the DNC it was misstep after misstep. I dunno about you, but I love hearing the president say they'll only be different than Biden, because they'll have more Republicans in their cabinet. I love hearing they're going to build the wall. I love hearing them talk all the time about the fact that Cheney endorsed them. I love hearing how profracking they are. And I love their silence on the genocide in Gaza. Certainly, sexism and racism plays a role, but let's not kid ourselves here.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

Sorry, but she had a ton of hype and squandered it by saying she would be the same as Biden, would have the most lethal military, didn't separate on Gaza, focused on small businesses instead of all Americans, flipflopped on Medicare and fracking in both the worst ways, picked a progressive vp and caged him in bad neoliberal talking points instead of adopting his hard agenda, and tried to push for a republican written border bill instead of trying to reframe the issue in a any progressive way. Most Americans, Republicans included care about immigration and ALSO agree on a pathway to citizenship.

People gave her the benefit of the doubt and she told them to accept her as she wanted to be. You can't continue to shame a voter base indefinitely, politicians are supposed to campaign in a way that wins votes.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The weirdoes are excited about cutting off the porn, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

There is literally no way to do this. They're just too stupid to know that.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago

There's no way to block 100% but if they went full "fire wall of America", they could block enough to the 80% of people who don't know how to use a vpn, it would look like they're doing something.

And then you get the added bonus of blocking all those nasty foreign websites talking about freedom, democracy, equal rights and more!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Tell you what. I just got a couple boxes of canvas. If they do "ban porn," I'll dedicate every one of these brand new canvasses to making erotic paintings out of spite.

And I mean, I'm not even a porn consumer. I just fucking hate fascists.

^...^ ^though^ ^I^ ^also^ ^happen^ ^to^ ^enjoy^ ^creating^ ^suggestive^ ^imagery,^ ^as^ ^well^ ^as^ ^painting^ ^nude^ ^figures.^ ^¯\(ツ)/¯^

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Y'all remember how prohibition panned out?

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Huh? Honest Trumpy said he’d never heard of it

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He may not even have been lying. He's demented, and he didn't even read the daily white house briefings. There's no way in hell he'd pick up a 900+ page document. It's in his Christian Taliban handlers best interest to keep him in the dark. It's not like his voter base expect him to know what his policies are, because they don't even know. They're just voting based on a general vibe (aka feefees).

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago

that's what America wants apparently

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I didn't even bother reading anything about project 2025 because I thought surely it wouldn't come to this

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Ugh, it's bad. Mitch McConnells life work is about to be fulfilled. Courts are stuffed with gop goons to create a legit legal precedent for unitary executive theory. It's bad. I'm mostly worried about deportation and family separation. I think he's going to consider that a big thank you to the loyalty of his base. The cruelty is the point for a lot of those people. I'm worried that these policies will lead to race riots by Hispanics, especially if they fuck with DACA.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If you think that's the worst that's going to happen I almost feel sorry for ya.

This is 1934 all over again, but even worse.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago

That guy needs a punch in the face

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

Nobody tell the rubes exactly what we’re going to do.

Ok, now tell the rubes.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

Also: before

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago
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