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Stein pulling out wouldn’t result in more votes for Harris. It would just make more people stay home. I think they’re more worried about greens hitting the 5% national threshold.
Stop assuming these votes are stolen from Harris. She hasn’t earned them.
Breaking news: people with an actual commitment to environmentalism recognize Jill Stein for the obvious Russian shill and extreme threat to environmentalism she is. More at 11.
The best thing Stein could do for the environment right now is to quit.
Decomposing is also an option.
Decomposition releases greenhouse gases. Better for her to preserve herself in a peat bog or something.
Fair
I voted for Jill Stein in 2016 because I assumed Hillary was going to win anyway, and I was in a solidly red state so fuck it, might as well vote 3rd party.
Then Trump won.
Then I learned about Stein's backwards views on nuclear energy, GMOs and vaccines.
Then she turned out to be a Russian asset.
Then she decided to run again and again, knowing that she's only acting as a spoiler for the Dems.
Boy did I make a mistake in 2016. I wish there was a perfect candidate for everyone to vote for, but unfortunately keeping Trump out of the white house is the best we can do. Harris isn't my first choice, but I voted for her on behalf of all of the people who will suffer under another Trump presidency.
Yep me exactly too. Though I vote in a solidly blue state, it won't change much but the dems have gotten better and all 3rd parties have gotten worse in recent years, so I have no problem voting dem this time just to take zero risks.
You mean Russian Asset Jill Stein?
I was talking about intentional spoiler candidate for Trump whom Republicans are scrambling to get on as many ballots as possible Jill Stein, but maybe we're talking about the same person here.
The very same
Good. I was a part of the Green Party, I left when I learned they were planning of running a candidate this year, when internally, we were floating around the idea of NOT running a candidate. I am now a member of the Working Families Party.
Good on you, but I'd like to point out that you meant "a part" not "apart". Apart means separate from.
Thanks for the correction!
"Stein was reached for comment where she added: what the fuck do you think I'm running for, to actually be president? Ha! You're telling me to drop out so I can't do the thing I'm here to do which is help Trump win. You realize how dumb that is right?"
At press time, Stein remarked: "No, no seriously guys, we're actually a serious party that has any business running for the highest office in the nation please believe me."
I would believe them if their party EVER got anyone elected, even to state congress, in even a third of the states.
I said it once, I'll say it again-
Until ranked choice vote is established and the electoral college is abolished, there are no serious third parties.
The most serious third party imo is the Forward Party, only because they have one platform which is RCV, and they are quietly working in local elections only. They aren't running any candidates in federal elections, although they had a big win in helping Alaska switch to RCV for their congressional race, which nudged out Sarah Palin.
With the forward party in conjunction with fairvote.org , they are laying the groundwork to create possibly the most revolutionary change to American politics ever.
But in order to do that, we need to have elections. Vote Harris.
FPTP means there will be two viable candidates in each race, it doesn't mean they'll always be the same two parties. There are lots of races in deep blue areas that don't have a viable Republican challengers where the Greens (if they were a real party) could mount a challenge. Sort of like the Justice Democrats, but making the play in an unopposed general election instead of the primary. Then they could caucus (or not I suppose) with the Democrats like the independents do.
But they brag about five (5) whole Green Party members getting elected to state legislatures since 1985. You know, that's like one (1) whole member every eight (8) years, which is a lot considering there are only thousands of state legislature positions across the US (some of which have such little competition fucking Buck Cluck could probably get elected to a few dozen of them). So I think your point is moot tbh.
This might have helped two months ago. Thanks Europe. Better late than never I guess?
Europeans are confused by America's constant election cycle.
From a European perspective the race should be in the final quarter since it would have started two weeks ago.
We're confused as hell how parliamentary systems work too, so fair I guess?
Damn, even people in other countries seem to understand what's going on. I guess they don't see both sides as the same for some reason. 🤔
I'm sure people in other nations are holding their breath right now. This election has huge consequences world wide.
That's so sad. They think she's genuine.
I don't think she really has a choice this close to the election. RFK has tried suing to get off the ballot in a few states and failed.
Jill Stein responded "I will not abondon this race comrades!"
"But I've finally gotten David Duke on board!"