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Now if only they could more clearly communicate when games are playable offline.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This will be helpful for discerning if a game can run on the Steam Deck. There's not many games that don't have verification (Either by Valve or ProtonDB) but for newer games with anticheat it will serve as a good rule of thumb i imagine

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Lots of games with anti cheat auto work under wine/proton. The most on top of my head example is Elden ring. Runs fine on my desktop with arch, as well as my steam deck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I think that's the main goal behind,
To avoid frustration for steamD owners and avoid a bad reputation of "all games are unplayable on it"

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I wonder if you phrased it the way the Play store does: This game wants permission to:

  • send SMS messages
  • make calls
  • know your location
  • stalk your family
  • raid your fridge
  • access, read and upload files
  • manage and add contacts
  • cup your balls
  • go through your trash
  • irritate your boss

etc.

Think anyone would install them?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Cup my balls? Go on...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i dONt hAVe anYThinG To HIdE

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anyone who says that while wearing pants is a filthy liar.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I mean it's also pretty cold without pants.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

looks at Disney pluses binding arbitration clause

Yup

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Easy Anti Cheat - requires manual removal

Wait, so this sketchy, privacy-invading stuff remains even after a game is uninstalled?! I had no idea.

How is this stuff not classed as malware at this point?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Do you remember when Sony released cds that when inserted into Windows computer auto ran an installer that installed a rootkit that made it impossible for Windows to see any processes or files that started with a certain sequence of characters instantly turning any malware that named its files or processes similarly powerful rootkit. Oh and it installed a cd driver that made it impossible to copy their music.

Suggested removal was a full reinstall of windows.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

Oh it was initially classed as insanely intrusive malware when kernel level AC was introduced about a decade ago, by anyone with a modicum of actual technical knowledge about computers.

Unfortunately, a whole lot of corpo shills ran propaganda explaining how actually its fine, don't worry, its actually the best way to stop cheaters!

Then the vast, vast majority of idiot gamers believed that, or threw their hands up and went oh well its the new norm, trying to fight it is futile and actually if you are against this that means you are some kind of paranoid privacy freak who hates other people having fun.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

I've been shouting from the rooftops for years that this stuff is malware. I'm not the only one. No one listens.

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[–] [email protected] 315 points 2 days ago (14 children)

FYI - the owner of this site, gamingonlinux, was a mod on the [email protected] community until they were caught abusing their moderator powers. Then they deleted their account and complained on mastodon that it's stupid design that mod logs are public. [Screenshot]

Instead, here's a link to the official post https://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamworks/announcements/detail/4547038620960934857

[–] [email protected] 132 points 2 days ago

Wow, mad because you can be held accountable. That's sad.

Thanks for the steam link!

[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 days ago (2 children)

4 likes on him complaining that modlogs being public is something bad, cowards that only want to be shitty in the shadows.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Any program having kernel level access is spyware. This is getting ridiculous.

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[–] [email protected] 353 points 2 days ago (25 children)

Ooh and it's a giant yellow banner you probably won't miss, and not some two-shades-ligher-than-the-background nonsense.

Good job, Valve.

[–] [email protected] 112 points 2 days ago

They do this with Early Access and people still lose their shit about empty content and unfinished graphics in a game they paid $10 for.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

If only they let you filter out games from being seen on your store page or showing up in recommendations using this as a criteria.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I bought Sea of Thieves about 5 years ago. Recently, they added kernal-level anticheat (which does precisely fuck-all to actually stop cheating). While that is annoying, I'm not particularly worried because the studio that makes that game is owned by Microsoft, and like all Microsoft products, it was banished to my windows partition with the rest of the spyware.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well... kernel level software can access everything on your computer. That includes other partitions and unmounted drives

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Only if those other partitions are not encrypted. Sure, it could still wipe them - but that's something that backups are good for, and something you would certainly notice immediately :)

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

W steam/valve

[–] [email protected] 133 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

However, it's only being forced for kernel-level anti-cheat. If it's only client-side or server-side, it's optional, but Valve say "we generally think that any game that makes use of anti-cheat technology would benefit from letting players know".

I will always love Valve for their ability to use corpospeak against corpos.

Your game has anti-cheat?

Wonderful!

I'm sure that always only results in an improved experience for all gamers, lets let them all know!

=D

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That’s awesome! GTA V just screwed everyone on Linux! What a rug pull.

[–] [email protected] 145 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (14 children)

Adding kernel malware after the fact should entitle every single owner who requests one to a full refund no matter how long has passed.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago

Full agree. I do want some kind of policy for games that introduce anti-cheat both during early access and after release. Bricking a game you paid for should offer some sort of recourse.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 days ago

I feel like they're doing this because they are going so hard with steam deck. Regardless, good on Valve for doing this.

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