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[–] [email protected] 98 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (14 children)

it is taught in American schools.

did you just learn about the trail of tears?

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I’m old af and I grew up in the south with most topics whitewashed but I even learned about this in school and it wasn’t sugar coated.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, my school explicitly said the confederacy was right, should have won, and slavery wasn't as bad as people say, and they still covered the trail of tears accurately.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

This is currently taught in US schools. The image is ragebait.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

either that or made by someone who didnt pay attention in class

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I always wonder in these topics whether it's a bad school, a bad student, or just bullshit, because they're all equally viable options.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

You can say that, but there are thousands of schools.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Eventually this will get used in Florida to make sure we worship Christopher Columbus and don't make white kids feel bad about what their great great great great grandparents did. Because somehow we can't both acknowledge the bad and not have ancestral guilt. Oh maybe it makes white kids feel guilty because their parents are still teaching them they are better than people different from them. I think they should feel guilty.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah Im with others on this. We were taught this and all the gory details. Same with slavery. We were not sheltered from the reality of any of it.

Just to give you some clarity, in 9th grade our teacher told us a historical account in which a slaveowner punished his slave by literally shitting in his mouth and sewing it shut.

We were made to understand the brutality of slavery.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So clearly you aren't an American. If you were American you would know about the Trail of Tears. It's one of the landmark, pivotal chapters in American history that is actually taught: the people who were living here first were brutally repressed and removed from their own land and moved to parts of the country no one wanted, regardless of where the native people were from. So the folks who grew up around swamps on the Florida peninsula were moved to the dry, dusty wastes of Oklahoma. This is all stuff Americans learn.

So why are you posting this? You're just a dumb fucking troll. Go fight and be a sunflower like the rest of your ilk.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

As what a city man might call a redneck.... Even my hodunk school taught this.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago

I went to highschool in Utah in the 90s and it was covered pretty well... No glossing over or anything, tho I don't remember it being in any text book, I just remembered it from regular lecture time in US history class

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I learned about it in school in Texas, with all the deaths. You trippin. Go back to hexbear

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah, no. We covered this in elementary school, along with Japanese internment. I grew up in a small town of almost exclusively white people, too.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

In Canada, we devote a lot of time discussing how Europe settled the Americas and what happened to the Natives. There are daily announcements from certain school boards acknowledging that we reside on land previously belonging to a certain First Nations group. We still have a way to go in terms of the treatment of our first Nations groups, but it's become very common knowledge how horrible European settlers were to them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

It’s taught in German schools.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

Taught in American schools too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It wasn't taught in my UK primary school. I didn't take GCSE history, so I don't know if it was taught in secondary school. Probably not, from what I've heard from other people the curriculum tends to be pretty Eurocentric.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Settlement of the new world by European migrants and colonialism are the overarching themes.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

We're just going to downvote you for this ok. It happens.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Tulsa massacre is a better example of something glossed over in school.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

When my wife and I saw Watchmen the series, my wife was blown away when I told her that really happened. Whites literally told blacks to go away and form their own town, so they did and prospered, so the whites came and murdered the prosperous black community, and nobody was punished for any of this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Literally not even mentioned in school back in the 80s.

So many events like this, shout out to Howard Zinn, A People's History of the United States.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Wikipedia places the death count at three times the number shown in this 'meme' at the low end, 4x at the high end. Also what a bizarre bit of phrasing, it's literally called "The Trail of Tears" calling it evil is really gliding the lily.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Reminds me of a girl I knew posting on FB, "How come they don't have changing stations in men's rooms, huh?!"

LOL my god she got roasted. One guy was like, "You know $Brand you see in the bathroom? They in our bathrooms too and the company is headquartered in Tulsa. Where you're from."

And yes, The Trail of Tears was covered in OK classrooms, in the 80s.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

I did learn about the Native American genocide in school.

Are there schools where this isn’t taught?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was taught it in New York, seems odd to omit it from American history. Wouldn't surprise me if other states didn't. Education is super politicized here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

It’s not necessarily a topic that comes up every day, but I can’t think of a single time I’ve ever met a person who didn’t know about it. It’s never happened that someone has said “Wait what? What are you talking about?” when the genocide comes up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

NY, I definitely was taught this.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

It took liberals less than half-a-year to get on board with genocide. It's no surprise to me that they don't want to be reminded of the ones closer to home, either.

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