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[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Given its scarcity, helium should be more expensive, to the point where filling party balloons with it is decadent profligacy.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean it is expensive, it's just the amount required for a balloon is insignificant and thus seems cheap.

As a diver who uses helium I can tell you it is, compared to air, so much more expensive they actually charge me for it (rather than just rolled into the cost of a dive) - to the sum of about $300 a dive - depending on depth.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What is helium used for when diving?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Reducing the amount of narcotic gases in your mix so you don't act like a drunk idiot when in a life threatening situation.

Those narcotic gases are nitrogen and oxygen (although there's only so little oxygen you can have....and also only so much!)

Edit: extra info: oxygen and nitrogen are narcotic at depth, nitrogen is better understood and so often we talk about nitrogen narcosis, which tends to start hitting people after about 30m, but each person reacts different and to different degrees at different deaths. I personally notice it at about 50m or so. If I was more relaxed while diving it'd probably hit me sooner.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

and to different degrees at different deaths.

Was that supposed to say depths?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Most welcome! I can talk endlessly about diving so welcome the question.

I added an edit with some more information incase you're more curious.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

We should go back to filling them with hydrogen.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

What could go wrong?

I mean other than that...

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Would make for more exciting birthday parties.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The alternative is to use extremely limited quantities of gas crucial for MRIs, chip making, metallurgy, and a few other high tech applications. But hey, pretty balloons.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

^(The^ ^store^ ^was^ ^just^ ^out^ ^of^ ^helium.)^

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Only a matter of time before they can't get any because we wasted such a limited resource on vanity instead of the pursuit of science.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Perspective my dude. An insignificant small amount is spent on vanity.

I've used more helium on a single dive than I've ever used in balloons in my entire life.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

When I was a kid, Dave Berry had a column where he made fun of the US Strategic Helium Reserve. This taught me an important lesson: when people make fun of what seems like government waste, 75% of the time it turns out to be really important. Not always, but you should look into it more.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Oh the huge manatee!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Am I missing a joke? Airships used hydrogen gas

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Specific airships made by a specific country that had no access to helium...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Not exclusively, hydrogen being lighter and cheaper meant it was still sometimes used when helium could have been.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

When I was in school decades ago, my science teacher brought in a big balloon filled with hydrogen and lit the string on fire without telling us that it was filled with hydrogen.

I could feel the explosion in my bones. It was neat.

I’m not sure you could do that in schools today.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There will absolutely still be a customer that takes a balloon from behind the sign and asks for it to be filled up in the store.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They will demand it or else poor Kayla'lin 'da Leeigh Lynn Lee's princess party will be ruined.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I think you just summoned an Elder God.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

"I̡̖̝͔̯͌̄̈́ ̧̙̮̈̈́H̥̫̭͈̖̐̆̒̂̓̾A̼͚̘̦̼͂͌̇͒̏̌͝Ṽ̡̡͙͙͌́̽Ȩ̮̝̪̞͖̍͆̋͋̄̒͝ͅ ̳̙͝R̥͕̱̠̱̈̈́͜I͎͒͌̋͗̈̑͜͝S̨͙̻͍̺̟̾Ẹ̳̖̖̼̥̊̓̆Ǹ̡̳͍̏͒͛̉̃̀,̳̅̋͑ ̡̡̠̗͈́͑̌A̡̧̛̦͛̅̎̄͒͂Ṅ̨͕͈͍͎͆̑̕D̻̑̾̔̊̉͊̚ͅ ̧̳̙̳͗̈́͊͊̓͝Ḭ̻̗̻̥̙͉̀̒̂͛̈́ ̢̡̯͖̩̻͍͛D̰͔͇͉̪̆E̛̝̻͇͚̼̤͗̊̑̀͋͜M͕̯̠͎̳͌͛͐͒̋͑Ä̹̺̥̤́̓̾̕N̝͎̓̓̆͋͐D͇̺̮̠̏͊̌͐̍̚͠.͓̼̰̈́͛̈̈͊.̺͎͖̰͔̻̇̂̉̈́̌.̢̮̣͖̳͖̜́͌ ̫̰̗͋P͔͗̑͆O̳͛͌̂̎̀Ṅ̦̣͖̭Ḭ̱̖̊̂Ė̛̠̺̭̓̉Ś̞͔͍̠̟͓̦̿̈́̆"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

The Eldritch God of over eccentric suburban moms is somehow more terrifying than anything Lovecraft came up with.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just use hot air. Lots of that to go around.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm afraid it's already in use by politicians.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck! How am I going to refuel this fusion reactor I brought back from the future? You can't have shit these days.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

May I suggest food waste from someone's garbage can? I hear that works.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

😏 ...Is there a Mrs. Fusion?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Mylar balloons should be outlawed. They get sent free and land on power lines WAY too often. Over a thousand mylar balloon caused power outages are recorded in just Southern California alone in a typical year. The cost of repairing the damage might even exceed the revenue of mylar balloon sales.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I want a balloon full of uranium hexafluoride.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

why don't we just bring a shitload back from saturn or something

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Dont you tell me what i can do!!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I really wonder what power plants will do with the helium once they get fusion working. Maybe a balloon business on the side isn't such a bad idea.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I mean too much Helium isn’t a problem. It’s one of the few (only?) elements that will just disappear if you don’t do anything with it.

It’s light enough that it rises to the very tip top of the earth’s atmosphere and is then stripped away by solar radiation. That’s why is a depleting natural resource, not because it’s burned or used or anything, but because it just escapes.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

In a perfect world stick it in a secondary reactor and make lithium. But that's obviously even further off than hydrogen fusion.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

An MRI scanner in every home!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The amount of helium produced is truly miniscule, in the order of a few cubic centimeters. They'll just pump it into the ground somewhere, assuming we ever get fusion working

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Brought to you by big hydrogen.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Good thing I finally finished voice training and no longer need Helium to pass 👍

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

nice keming on that one

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't you mean "outlaw α-decay" instead?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I just work here, sir. I'm not a scientician.

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