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[–] [email protected] 123 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Didn’t he explain one time that the key to looking really shredded for a movie is to get SUPER dehydrated right as filming begins? Think it was because then it makes your abs and other chest muscles stick out really prominently and achieves the Hollywood expectation for how strong guy should look

[–] [email protected] 99 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Ugh so annoying. So like both in movies and body building, what they’re selling is actually not a healthy or strong physique—but someone who could be on the verge of organ failure.

I like the idea of fitness, and being in functionally good shape, so this sort of exaggeration is something I find uniquely distasteful—portraying a a goal state that is actually just a grift/scam, and that is dangerous to partake in.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Henry Cavill had a similar experience as Geralt. He said he could smell water nearby after a while

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

sniff sniff "smells like water, gotta be.."

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah they will typically time the cutting/dehydration to film all the "muscle shots" at the same time. The actors are miserable during this time period, and will and will quickly hydrate/switch to maintenance eating after this

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah standard weight cutting, and then aggressive pre-show preparation. Ironically, they're probably at their weakest during competition / shows, due to the dehydration and starvation beforehand.

The not-shredded wolverine could lift harder and run longer than his tougher looking counterpart.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think I heard something similar, so probably.

On that note, I'm well hydrated. REALLY well hydrated...

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Yeah. There is a reason, why we only see one scene of a shirtless hero per movie.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Yes, he explained this in the BTS for "Les Miserables"

A MUSICAL MOVIE WHERE THE CAST HAD TO SING LIVE ON SET. (I had to write that in caps to drive home the point and retraumatise all the theater kids in the audience)

[–] [email protected] 108 points 3 months ago

It's perfectly normal for humans to become less matte as they age. Please stop this unnecessary reflectivity shaming.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Funny thing is that the comic character never even had this ott physique. He’s this hairy, barrel-chested little brawler.

Old picture looks like something you could plausibly achieve by going to the gym every day.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Three times a week with a reasonable diet would get most people the first look. And you could actually maintain it.

The second is impossible to maintain for more than short stints.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

after reading about how he gets this look, I don't enjoy it. same with The Witcher; yes, it looks attractive, but all I can think about is Henry Cavill talking about how when you're that dehydrated you can smell water from a distance

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the whole "dehydrate the fuck out of yourself to make your muscles pop a bit" thing is so irresponsible. Jackman pulled the same thing for the opening prisoner scene in the Les Miserables movie, which was doubly irresponsible because he had to sing, and being dehydrated makes it really difficult to sing well, and potentially puts you at risk to damage your voice. I think I've seen interviews where they spent like several hours on that scene because his voice kept breaking. So not only was it super bad for Jackman, it also wasted the rest of the cast and crew's time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't think that it was him who decided that it was necessary for the scene, though he might not have been against it. Production would not agree to loose money on multiple takes if they did not want the Jackman abs.

Edit: I agree that it's a completely irresponsible practice though!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

The pic from 2000 looks pretty reasonable.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It reminds me of an interview I saw with Alan Richardson (?), the guy playing reacher on the Amazon series. It was in support of the new season, but basically the conversation revolved around how exhausting it was to maintain the required physique for the role, and how it meant he couldn’t do some of the things he normally enjoyed—he was too heavy to run without impact injury, and flexibility and reach was an issue.

I’d imagine transitioning between these physiques can probably be challenging and taxing on the body as well.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

flexibility and reach was an issue.

REACHER

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think the older Hugh gets, the better he looks as Wolverine.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 months ago (5 children)

It's definitely not the Disney/Marvel steroid program that Fox didn't put it's actors through....

Like, even the world's best trainers, nutritionists, and anything else couldn't consistently get these results.

They can take any random actor through that progression in like 9 months now.

There's no way they're all able to do it. It's worse than 90s baseball

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (11 children)

It's not steroids. It's severe dehydration plus oiling up the actor

Still an awful act - His kidneys could shut down early as a result

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago

I mean, it's dehydration, but on top of steroids.

Especially when you consider Jackman is fucking 55 years old. In the pic in the left from 20 years ago, he's too old to look like the pic on the right.

There is zero percent chance he's not on them.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

That, mixed with several months of full-time training, world class trainers, and a personal chef.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

For sure, was just specifically mentioning the full on harmful method used

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Can't wait for Even Older Man Logan

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Holy cow! 24 years! I knew he has been playing Wolverine for quite awhile, but 24 years playing the same character is insane. And he just keeps getting better at it. Haven't watch the new Deadpool yet, but I'm absolutely looking forward to it. Heard good things.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How old is he now? Mid 50's?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago

He is over 100 years old

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sorry to spoil the story, one of those is heavily photoshopped.., I mean AI..ed.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

When i saw the movie i thought the joke was CGI muscles. But in some podcasts and other things people talked about they are real. Really confusing. Also someone apparently asked how they got to get into shape and they said it was pretty easy, he was never out of shape. The difference between the left and right picture could just be heavy dehydration. Someone even mentioned that even a glass of water could "ruin" his physique

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

In the comics Wolverine doesn't age, because of his healing factor. I think Hugh Jackman might actually be Wolverine.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Steroids, professional chefs, makeup, and Photoshop goes along way

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And he looked better in the first one.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Agree, looks much healthier and more natural. A better role model definitely.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

AAMOF, 2000s Jackman's body resembles comic books' Wolverine more accurately.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not really and Jackman didn't think so too. He was cast at the last minute and couldn't bulk up sufficiently in time. His form from X2 onwards is the form he aimed for.

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[–] breadguyyy 7 points 2 months ago

look what they took from us

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

It should be illegal to look extreme to the point it is unhealthy. The 2000 Movie was good.

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