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Rotha Lintorn-Orman, WW1 ambulance driver, lesbian, and founder of the British fascists - history is strange. Photo from 1916 (lemmy.world)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can't wait for the day when colorized pictures become the norm and more people realize that 100 years wasn't that long ago and that the main difference is the speed of communication, the quality of the medical system, the fact that rural areas have the quality of life city folk have and the fashion. Ofc some social issues have advanced considerably, but it's roughly still the same themes and topics.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So what you are saying is "everything is different "

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you a doctor in some rural ditch that really likes fashion or something? Otherwise I don't see how that's "everything". The daily life of your average western person wasn't too different in the 1920s, nor were their political opinions. The main point I wanted to make is that we still generally talk and care about the same issues. If we weren't addicted to scrolling social media and were esthetically blind, most of us wouldn't immediately realize it if we were transported back in time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

If we weren't addicted to scrolling social media and were esthetically blind, most of us wouldn't immediately realize it if we were transported back in time.

I don't know about that. We didn't even have a public radio station in the US until 1920. Television didn't come around until 1925. Frozen food in 1929.
The simple act of driving to the store to get shopping done for dinner would be quite different.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Oh right, forgot about America... Imagine bulldozing your entire city just so you can live the American dream of driving for basic necessities.

Also I don't watch TV or listen to radio. Many people don't. I generally don't buy frozen goods either, I can just grab anything I want fresh from the store, it's literally down the street (Or have it delivered, like what my gf does, tho that's definitely a modern luxury). I usually just grab some meat and cream on my way from work.

My daily lifestyle outside of work as a developer doesn't differ too much from my great grandparents.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Why ? Because a lesbian can’t be fascist?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Why ? Because a lesbian can’t be fascist?

Less "can't" and more "homophobia is generally associated with fascism". Like how Ernst Rohm and the early SA were outliers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yes, the two are incompatible

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Would seem to be, and probably should be if self preservation enters the mind of the person in question, but ideologies, even those that would seem to have a pretty narrow appeal can (at least at a surface level) make themselves appealing to people of all sorts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A current example of this would be Alice Weidel, AfD. A lesbian in a German facist party who spends most of her time (allegedly) in Switzerland at her partners place.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Ernst Rohm (an out gay man) was in the previous iteration right up until he was no longer useful to the state/party apparatus.

Hell, Mussolini was originally a Communist who, I guess, decided he was tired of working on making a better world and decided to settle for immediately making a worse one because at least he'd be in charge of part of it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You underestimate the human potential for contradiction. Ernst Röhm entered the chat to tell you that homosexual fascists are in fact a thing, a niche thing but nonetheless a known phenomenon. There is a great documentary about gay men in the neonazi scene by Rosa von Praunheim, called "Männer, Helden, schwule Nazis" not sure if it is available in english though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

You underestimate the human potential for contradiction.

Yes. There even was Nazi Jews…