this post was submitted on 26 Jun 2024
1007 points (99.1% liked)

News

22888 readers
4017 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Conservative activists, led by a local pastor and outspoken Israel advocate, pushed the district, Mission CISD, to excise books mostly about gender, sexuality and race. Their demands represented an extreme version of a nationwide culture war over books that has played out in recent years — and ensnared a number of books with Jewish themes.

In Mission, the long list of books on the chopping block includes a recent illustrated adaptation of Anne Frank’s diary; both volumes of Art Spiegelman’s Holocaust graphic memoir “Maus”; “The Fixer,” Bernard Malamud’s novel about a historical instance of antisemitic blood libel; and “Kasher in the Rye,” a ribald memoir by Jewish comedian Moshe Kasher.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 237 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are conservatives activists so concerned with information related to living under Nazism because they don't want young people to be able to recognize the steps if those steps occur to young people today?

[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No no, that would require “reason”.

No this is all somehow related to Jeezus.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not it's 100% tied to the resurgence of white supremacy. These conservatives groups are backed by humongous PACs that fund groups that push their agenda. Just like with turningpointusa and groups like that. Don't mistake careful planning masked by racist zealots as idiocy.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 196 points 2 months ago (17 children)

local pastor and outspoken Israel advocate

Anne Frank’s diary

Art Spiegelman’s Holocaust graphic memoir

Israel advocate

Anne Frank’s diary

Israel advocate

Anne Frank’s diary

You fucking disgrace

Get out of my country

For some reason this made me way more irrationally angry than just killing Palestinians. It’s killing Palestinians and running cover for the people who killed Anne Frank and Spiegelman’s brother, and doing it all at the exact same time with no sense of shame or embarrassment but, I’m sure, a smug sense of superiority like everyone else is the monster in this

This guy better really hope that there isn’t a hell

[–] [email protected] 105 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Hey man. If it looks like a Nazi, walks like a Nazi and quacks like a Nazi, it's probably a Nazi

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Idk, if it quacks it might be an undercover nazi-duck

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)
load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not really surprising - historically, the creation Israel state was helped massively by antisemitists, who wanted to get rid of jews in their own country and having them a place to immigrate to would be the easiest option (the phenomena is often referred to as Zionist antisemitism).

So yeah, it does make sense - they can hate the jews, but also support Israel at the same time.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (15 replies)
[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the nazis also banned books they didn't agree with

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago

Which you can learn about....in Maus. Ffs.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 months ago (3 children)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"Jewish themes"...like in the Bible?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago

i cannot believe how openly anti-nazi some books are! we should burn these intolerant books!

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The conservative groups are led by Pastor Luis Cabrera, who is active in Latino conservative circles in the state and whose Instagram profile picture is currently an upraised fist outlined with the Israeli flag. Originally from Guatemala, Cabrera is a member of several right-wing Christian activist organizations and has also posted numerous pieces of pro-Israel social media content.

The thing about Uncle Tom's are they come in all shapes, races, ethnicities, and backgrounds. Ironically the things they all hate and fight against

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Another thing is that Uncle Tom was eventually flogged to death by the people whose admiration he so desperately sought to win.

Fundamentalist only see things in measures of what helps them obtain what they want. Once the utility of someone is over, they have zero compunction with turning on the person that helped them and riving them to nothingness as demonstration.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I simply cannot wrap my head around this. How is this defensible? What possible justification could they provide for banning Maus?? Anne's Diary?? How could you even link these to any contemporary agenda?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Because they're fucking Nazis, how many ways do they need to prove it to you?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Wise person: "Those who do not know history's mistakes are doomed to repeat them."

Actual Nazis: Great idea. Let's burn some books.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nah I get that they're Nazis. But the article failed to mention the official justification to ban these. I want to know what's the sugarcoated, duplicitous rationale they provided.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

See, us Jews control Hollywood, so all of that is just PR messaging about our Holocaust lie. And we also control the banks, so we're the ones buying these books and bribing school librarians to put them on the shelves. Whereupon, I guess, something about the trans agenda happens? I'm a cishet Jew, so I'm only up on our side of the conspiracy.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It's amazing that Republicans are both pro-Israel and anti-Jew at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (6 children)

There's a reason for that, which I mentioned in a post elsewhere in the thread:

“Outspoken Israel advocates” who are evangelical Christians don’t love Jews. Quite the opposite. They need Israel to exist so all Jews in the world can be forcibly deported to it, and then made to rebuild the Great Temple, so Jesus can come back and throw them all into Hell.

And a red cow comes into the picture as well.

None of that is sarcasm. That is really what they think.

load more comments (6 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

They can link them to their own goals. They want to avoid that people might notice the signs and recognize them as a warning. Let me guess, "The Wave" has been banned there, too?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (106 children)

I just can't understand how someone could think that banking books is a good idea.

edit: sorry banning not banking

load more comments (106 replies)
[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago

'Never again' is now.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Texas full of whiny bitches seems like

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (17 children)

well the USA was circling the drain after Trump's first win... they are now at the toilet gargling stage

load more comments (17 replies)
[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago

Didn't need to read past the word "Texas" and I know not only would the next words be really stupid but also I would believe it 100%

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

An "outspoken Israel advocate" wants to get rid of books about the Holocaust and antisemitism in general? I am very confused. Usually right wing extremist demands make some kind of sense from within their twisted world view, but how does that fit together at all, in any world view?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

Hard right folks don't like teaching the history of the consequences of hard right political movements. Those histories never end with a country full of happy economically secure people just living their lives because the only thing fascists can do is destroy everything.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As a Jew, I think I won't be going to Texas any time soon.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

I'd prefer not to given this situation, and I hope you are and stay safe.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Texas is dumber than I thought.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I gotta work on getting my kids passports. If the traitor fucktard wins, i could see us all forced onto cattle cars.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you are a cis-het white who at least publicly proclaims belief in Jesus, you should be fine. For eveyone else, they'll start with those who have the least power and keep coming for the next out-group on the ladder.... and they'll use anyone they can convince along the ladder to kick off those on a lower rung.

Let's see, illegal immigrants, homeless, drug addicts, trans, gay, muslim, atheist, brown, jewish - appologies if sure if I left anyone out. You may disagree with the order, but I might not be far off.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

Add liberals, scientists, teachers to the end of the list.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm still proud of the copy of "Maus" that I donated to the library of my shitty little Texas town before I moved out of that hell-hole a few years back. I still check the online catalog from time to time to make sure it's still in circulation.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

As someone else who got out of a shitty little Texas town, I salute you.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

My partner is an educator in Texas and I showed this to them. So thanks for posting, OP, getting the word out and such.

load more comments
view more: next ›