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[–] [email protected] 58 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's just basic civil behaviour

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

That sadly, many choose not to do.:-(

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's probably bad parenting, but I tell my daughter that people who litter are bad people. I can probably put it better, but she's young, simple is good, and so litterers=bad people. I honestly think that to essentially be true, because if you litter, you've essentially internally rationalized your entitlement to make your shit someone else's problem. Right there with people who don't put their carts back.

That being said, I do also say to her that sometimes the wind will carry trash from a receptacle, and that sometimes folks have difficulty ambulating, and so there are exceptions.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I have never thrown trash on the ground in my life. I cannot imagine who was brought up to think that's ok.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I'm going to rant here because your comment re-ignited my rage.

My family and I have weekly dinners. I drive over there and pass through their neighborhood. They own a successful business so it's a pretty nice neighborhood with a good median of trees down the main road passing through (still a 25 MPH speed limit). And every week for several years now, there is a discarded Pepsi can in the median. Not the same can, but a new can every week. Someone drives through there, likely multiple times a week and I'm just not there to see it,, and throws a Pepsi can in roughly the same spot.

It enrages me. It's so senseless and selfish that I cannot even fathom a reason. My best justification is that they're a person who is "sticking it to the rich" by littering in a nice neighborhood, but that's being extremely generous. I am convinced it's purposeful because the consistency is staggering. A new can in the same 100 feet of road, every day.

And I know it's not the same can because if it snows, the snow obscures the cans and the poor hero picking them up can't see them, so when the snow melts there are several cans littered about.

It genuinely makes me so angry, because it's so inexplicably terrible. I just hate things I can't understand. It makes me more angry than Donald Trump because at least with Trump, on some level I get it. I may hate what he's doing but I can logically see why he's doing it and that understanding is almost calming, in a sense.

But this? Absolute nonsense. I just cannot see why someone would do this

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I think Hanlon's Razor probably applies. It's likely just some person enjoying a Pepsi at the end of the day and throwing it out because they'll pile up in their car otherwise.

Laziness is something that's lauded in this day and age, they likely just don't understand that what they're doing is wrong.

I could be wrong, but most people aren't malicious.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Probably not, but maybe they’re doing it to make sure that guy keeps his job.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'll admit it, though I'm not proud of it. I used to throw trash out the car window all of the time when I was in highschool (idk if I thought it was funny, or I was being cool, or just truly didn't consider it). It hurts to think about my dumbass doing that in the past, but it happened

Now I don't even throw my cigarette butts on the ground. I twist them out and put them in my pocket until I can find a proper trash can. I pick up other litter when I can and even raked an entire campsite of beer cans/trash thrown around (I was just hiking and stumbled upon it, but I couldn't leave it without doing something). So hopefully I've earned a little good-litter-karma back for all the fuckery I caused as a dumb teen

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s amazing how complete my mind felt when I was a teenager, and then how incomplete it looks in retrospect as I realize how little consideration I gave to consequences of actions.

Like, I remember moments when friends and I ruined this or that, then had some adult say something like “somebody has to fix that now”.

I’d be like “yeah duh” like I knew this fact, but somehow it wasn’t real to me. Consequences were just a blank.

I think one of the weird things about the human mind is we have this kind of words-only knowledge and we have this fully real knowledge, and we tend to confuse the one for the other so easily and often.

“Do you know X?”

“Yes I know that”

But then it never enters into your actions because you only “know it” in words, the same way you know something like “An AU is the distance from Earth to the Sun”. It’s a perfectly comprehensible fact with no visceral reality to it.

When I was a teenager, consequences were words-only knowledge for me.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I only did it once when I was young and my uncle gave me the stare and told me to pick it up and put it in my pocket. That's really all it took to teach me it was wrong amd have never littered since, at least not intentionally.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

They’re about to get crushed?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Is it bad that I think like that all the time? I still do the right thing, but I'm worried that one day I'll just see no change and get into the "fuck it" mindset.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In actual civilised countries, people do think like that, teach their kids to think like that, and call out people who don't respect their environment.

It's a societal problem at your end probably

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

When I was young kids would actually get mad if someone wasn't being a tidy kiwi. It was so ingrained in us to not litter and pick up litter. I remember seeing a young girl scolding an adult for throwing his cigarette on the ground.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

In Japan they don't have public trash cans so if you eat a snack you just shove the wrapper in your pocket until you get home or wherever. You end up with a pocket filled with trash, ha

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

In Japan I had no idea how to get rid of rubbish. The only way I knew how was to find the Mc Donald's and throw our trash away there.

I don't know why they don't have public bins.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

They don't have them because they were removed after the Tokyo Metro nerve gas attack in 1995 as a precaution against future terrorist attacks. It's a pretty common response to terror attacks, France did it after the 1995 GIA bombings and the UK did it after the 1993 Bishopgate bombing by the Provisional IRA.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Anti-public cost cutting disguised as security theater

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Dam that's a bit of an over reaction imo.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wait, do you mean to tell me they don't have public trash bins in France or the UK either? Or did they bring them back after a while?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

They brought them back after a while. Japan has started bringing trash cans back in cities slowly too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (4 children)

They are afraid of bombs.

In my city center, after a terrorist attack decades ago with a bomb in one of them, all the trash bins were removed and never reinstated.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Everyone knows a bomb can only explode if it's within a trash can. I'm glad Japan no longer has to worry about this critical issue.

I all seriousness though, by all accounts I've heard Japan is very clean. The lack of trash cans is not an excuse people use and things work fine without them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Its clean but there are a lot of stinky rubbish bags on the side of the road.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Sure, it's only garbage people who litter. But don't forget that it was lobby of the plastic industry who overemphasized the waste and recycling system as a solution to pollution, as opposed to reducing consumption.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

In all fairness. It's nice to have clean spaces as well.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Pretty basic, really. City has trashcans everywhere, so one is bound to run into one eventually. It costs literally just as much effort to shove that wrapper into your pants pocket as it does to chuck onto the street.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Yes, if a) you were raised with such values? Common sense? Both? And b)if your city has a lot of thrash cans. I'm surrounded by a lack of both so the meme is accurate to the folks that keep trash in their pockets until they get to a trashcan.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Correction: your city has trashcans everywhere

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I have a mint wrapper in my back pocket from three days ago, I've seen countless trash cans. This shit is getting thrown away when I wash em, become one with the trash.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I like to go the extra mile by washing and drying my trash before throwing it away. Paper products unfortunately don't do well in the process and i have to retrieve the from the lint screen.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Sometimes I find garbage in my pockets from months ago :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I like that last pocket on my backpack. Mesh pocket like the one for drink bottles, but a more of a flat pocket with no zipper, little tension band at the top. Great for that tissue or what have you.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

This could also be "people who put stray carts (trolleys for UKians) in the cart return even if they weren't the one to use them"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Kek, me with two pockets full of trash. Not all of my own even

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I kind of interpret the image as he's doing something pointless. Clearly, he can't be holding that for real. And by that logic, meme implies that not littering is useless. Maybe an Atlas/Atlant meme would've worked better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Honestly I constantly get home and go to take out my keys and remember like 3 pieces of trash in there...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I keep my hands in my pockets, but I have yet to find a trash bin that accepts living garbage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

My back right pocket has seen a lot of snotty tissues. I wash my jeans maybe twice a year.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

There may be a smell that you are not aware of.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s why cargo pants and shorts never go out of style.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

They were never in style, they are a lifestyle.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

And I throw that trash in the garbage collector truck which goes around the town, out of it, into a landfill and stuffs it there. I hate living in a 3rd world country.

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