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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 123 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I am assuming this is some sort of vegan talking point that since some human teeth are mostly flat, ignoring canines and some particularly sharp front incisors, humans are supposed to eat only plants? Aren't humans omnivores though?

[–] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 62 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

You are interpreting that backwards. I wouldnt say it’s a vegan talking point so much as a non vegan talking point in reverse. It’s commonly argued that because humans have canines were meant to eat meat. Whereas vegans fully acknowledge the capacity to digest meat and evolutionary history that evolved omnivorous diets (but argue the majority of (not all) people have a want rather than a need) . The vegans are just memeing back.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 7 months ago (18 children)

meh I've heard mostly vegans make this dumbass argument.

I definitely support vegans but I don't support pseudoscientific bullshit no matter who says it.

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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (11 children)

Humans have teeth suitable for both meat and plant foods. So I would say humans are omnivores.

I may be wrong, but a 100% vegan only diet I think requires supplements to be taken for certain things like proteins that humans need in order to live. Of course, those certain proteins are found in meats.

However, I think saying humans are carnovires would also be incorrect, and a 100% meat only diet would be I think equally as unhealthy as a 100% plant only diet.

[–] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don’t think you read my post carefully. I said humans have teeth for both meat and plants. I didn’t say that humans aren’t omnivores. I just said (implicitly) that they are not obligate omnivores.

Proteins are not a concern, you can get all essential amino acids through only plant protein. Pretty much the only one that is hard to get enough of is B12. With real determination it can be done but it’s easier to just supplement. By the way, most omnis also do not get enough B12 and eat supplements either directly or through fortified foods. It’s just usually they are getting it through fortified milk which vegans don’t drink.

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 85 points 7 months ago (23 children)

Humans don't have to kill things with their teeth. Sharks do.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yeah one thing you notice about the ocean is the teeth are designed so if you catch something it can't get away. Look at anglerfish and baleen. White sharks have hundreds of teeth. Most omnivorous land mammals have teeth just like ours.

This is just a bad comparison, but it is funny.

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[–] MY_ANUS_IS_BLEEDING@lemm.ee 63 points 7 months ago (7 children)

I would be a vegan but I just don't have the time or willpower.

I mean, the amount of time you have to spend bitching about other's dietary choices is exhausting.

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[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 62 points 7 months ago (3 children)
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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 52 points 7 months ago (46 children)

Man, it really is entertaining when religious zealots try to meme

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[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 51 points 7 months ago (70 children)

Human teeth are omnivorous.

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[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 48 points 7 months ago (19 children)

Holy shit why can't vegans shut the fuck up about veganism

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 21 points 7 months ago

They’re part of the “If I’m doing nothing then I’m part of the problem” crowd.

Otherwise known as “moralizing busybodies”

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[–] Ballistic_86@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago (10 children)

We aren’t carnivores, we are omnivores. An advantage that surely allowed the growth of our brains and allowed us to become the dominant species in the planet.

Our teeth our designed in a way to both rip/tear meat and also grind up plants.

It is great that some sector of the population can be vegetarian or vegan, but it isn’t a realistic option if everyone did so. Farming is destroying hundred of thousands of acres of land every year. Keeping up with a plant-based only diet for 8 billion people isn’t feasible with the current technology and farming practices of today.

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 36 points 7 months ago (13 children)

Raising animals consumes even more resources because first you have to grow plants to feed to the aninals.

[–] CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz 19 points 7 months ago (9 children)

While in general you're right, you're neglecting the fact that theres plenty of land that is suitable for raising animals which isn't suitable for farming. Specifically: The Norwegian population would have been incapable of surviving historically without a bunch livestock living in the un-farmable mountains most of the year.

[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (8 children)

This is an interesting edge case you're presenting, but it's not representative of the overwhelming majority of agricultural land devoted to livestock, and it's been largely solved by modern supply chains and distribution.

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[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 32 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Farm animals are generally not anymore fed by grazing, but rather from crops that have been grown on farm land. The animals use up energy to sustain their own life, so eating the plants directly is actually more efficient.

Here's a random source, for example: https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets

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[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's important to note the types of farming that use the most land:

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[–] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 16 points 7 months ago (25 children)

You are spreading misinformation. Veganism requires vastly less land and water resources. Type “land use food calculator” into google

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

what a stupid meme. it's almost like sharks don't have arms and hands so they rely on their jaws more than we do. wow look we don't have compartments in our stomach, we must not be fit to eat plants.

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[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry but this is equally terrifying as the real thing.

[–] swicano@kbin.social 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Those chompers are like 5 inch squares. Like a piece of bread made of bones

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[–] kiagam@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I always laugh at people that never saw a pacu

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[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Is this an argument that humans did not evolve to eat meat? Because those teeth... Well let's just say the teeth shown aren't what you expect from an herbivore now, is it? Put those on a cow and they would look just as strange.

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[–] AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago (9 children)

Vegans who actually believe what they preach spend more time on education and less on shaming or meaningless memes.

This is just posturing.

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[–] MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Find the nearest school bus and just get on.

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 13 points 7 months ago (6 children)
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