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Similar to the recent question about artists where you can successfully separate them from their art. Are there any artists who did something so horrible, so despicable, that it has instantly invalidated all art that they have had any part in?

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Very boring answer but JK Rowling.

Her books already had some questionable shit in them but witnessing that shockingly venomous transphobia really recontextualizes everything. I used to re read the Harry Potter saga every few years, but never again now, this whole, very nostalgic for me franchise is forever ruined now.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Can I recommend reading/listening to Ursula K. Le Guin's Earth Sea books?

They're also coming of age books about a young wizard, which almost certainly heavily inspired Rowling (although AFAIK she never admitted it), but the author is far less problematic. Also arguably much better books, so they're more enjoyable to read for adults too.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And the cherry on top is this. You may notice a bit of misogyny built into a first couple books in the series, which is surprising given that Ursula is a woman. She not only noticed, admitted, and confronted that patriarchal slant, but corrected it by writing later stories in the same world that reversed that course. Those stories end up being much better than the foundational works in the series. I have become an instant fan of any author that can confront the flaws of their earlier writings and deliberately alter course to do better in their life and their writing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I actually read her last book in the series first, (it’s a distant sequel, very far removed from the rest of the series), and I can attest to the fact that she grew tremendously. I went back and read the first book, and was surprised at how different the last book was.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Another great choice is The King Henry Tapes by Richard Raley. It's a take on HP, but the magical kid from a dysfunctional family is a juvenile delinquent with a foul mouth. One of my favorite series.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pendragon by DJ MacHale is also a great set of books.

Id kill for an HP quality set of movies of this series.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hey I know that series! And agree, though I think the last few books kinda lost me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Quillan Games is the book I remember being a bit tougher. It's been quite a long time since I've read the series.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah if I recall correctly it was basically a mix between Squid Game and Hunger Games? Before either one existed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Terry Pratchett's Tiffany Aching books are also great alternatives (and a gateway to the rest of the Discworld books, which are also great).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Yep! Harry Potter doesn't teach you how to be a wizard, but Tiffany Aching teaches you how to be a witch.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I always thought harry potter was boring as shit. Never got through a movie, never read a book.

But the people who I did see reading the books in class were the ones who definitely would take issue with Rowling's transphobia.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I was already a tiny adult when they came out. I tried reading them as an older adult and only got through one and a half.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Chamber of Secrets is definitely the weakest book in the series

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Her vehement and vocal hatred for trans people is pretty strange to me. She just won't let it go, no matter the fact that her very vocal opinions on the topic are destroying her own legacy.

I get that people are entitled to their opinions. But most people keep their thoughts to themselves if they start getting a lot of backlash. But she just keeps picking at it and making things worse for herself. I don't know if it's some sort of resentment born out of deeply hurt feelings, or unbridled arrogance that as a very rich and successful person people need to accept her opinions. Or maybe both. But it's not working and she's doing more harm than good, including to herself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Try the Mage Errent series by John Bierce. It's a full fantasy world with a hard magic aystem that's about kids going to magic school.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago