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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you are a dev and you dont earn enough, I suspect you have quite a number of options still.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A-fucking-men.

Blue collar factory schmuck here: Look at me, I'm the ~~Captian~~ worthless one now.

I'd figuratively kill for some options lol

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was a bit scared to write this here, but Im not scared telling you: Devs crying because of capitalist society and walls closing in is just laughable. The fuck are they talking about. They earn 2x as much as me, maybe 3x. In the same company I work at.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No that's just how bad our system is that even this dev is saying if one of them stops working they'll be homeless. And the tech job market right now is the worst it's been since 2008, he may not have many options in reality.

Devs are still workers like everyone else even though a lot of them think they're above it all.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I am a Junior sysadmin. They literally earn twice as much as me. They got atleast my pay amounts of free money to spend as I do survive on this amount. If I had that much money, I would feel very cozy.

I dont actually believe they are that bad off.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Most aren't bad off, but this guy is not your usual situation. The point is that a little bad luck can fuck over anyone other than the rich

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, I'd send you my excel sheet of finances, but we're strangers, so I don't know what else to say.

I'll recap: helping take care of my wife who has MS, financially dealing with inflation everywhere, finding the resources for mental health therapy for myself, and helping care for both of our aging parents, while trying to put away for a house of our own is really fucking hard. Even as a guy who writes software for a living as a freelancer.

I have to rent. It's not a choice for me, and I doubt I'm in some minority of devs who feel this way about economics in the United States.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm still not convinced. Xd Why go to the Netherlands with astronomical rent and cost of everyday conduct when you are a freelancer? Why even rent, dont you have a family house where you could safely earn the money you need?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I went to the Netherlands because my wife is a Dutch citizen and get the drugs she needs to stay alive and functional are cheaper there.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Okay I get it now. Im just a envious guy. :P

I have suffered for years. I have thoughts of blame, suicide and revenge all the time.

Lots of the time it comes down to the stress reaction of the body. One example is when I started taking the SSRI medication. I literally went nuts for 3 months. Wanting to go out of my way to hurt people and burn myself live in front of a political institution.

Since those days, Im keenly aware when Im trailing off to bullshit land. This never ending dreadful loop of thoughts. Very dependent on immediate physical state than anything else.

Other than shuffling chairs you can only really give a bit more to be able to get somewhere. This is the only way.