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[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

I think it's more likely to be about the USA's strategic control of the Arctic as the ice melts and ships can operate more easily. Right now it's bordered by Russia, Scandinavia, Greenland, Canada and a little bit of the USA. Trump wants all of the Canadian and Greenland coastline to be the USA's, so Russia and the USA can effectively control the Arctic Ocean and its shipping routes, and threaten Europe from the north. This is something that's so simple even Trump would think of it when looking at a globe.

Other factors include resources, including fresh water, and Trump's ego and inability to relate to others except through more or less lame attempts at dominance and bullying. Also that Trudeau out-handshook him a couple of times.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It's not about defense, that's bullshit. When JD Vance went to Greenland for a photo op where did he go? To a military base. Which country is running that military base?

Before Trump, the US already had the ability to have as much military presence in the Arctic as they wanted, because of NATO. He's actually weakening US strength in the Arctic with all of this bullshit.

Why are we guessing at reasonable motives for this? He's already said why he wants to do this. He wants to change the map. He things having Canada and Greenland as part of US will make the map look nicer. First thing he did was to rename the Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America. His motive is to redraw the map, but has no understanding of what that involved. Because he's an idiot that doesn't understand how anything works.

Look at his history, he doesn't really understand the concept of people consenting to what he wants. So he looks at the map and decides he wants it to look different and doesn't see any reason why that isn't going to happen. Because he doesn't understand the concept of needing Canada and Greenland to consent to these changes. Because he's and idiot... and a rapist.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

America wants the minerals and oil under the ground. They had military power in the artic. Next they want to own the artic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

FYI, it's Arctic, not "artic"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

If it was really about minerals and oil, why did Trump put a tariff on these things?

It's not like Canada was refusing to sell minerals to the US. Everyone was totally fine with selling them. It was Trump that decided "we don't need anything" from Canada.

An attempt to annex Canada won't make these things cheaper. You have to pay people to extract minerals from under the ground. In fact a lot of Canadians might refuse to mine those resources after and invasion and those sites would be a prime target for sabotage.

So tariffs make oil and minerals more expensive. Invasion makes them even more expensive and makes the supply chain incredibly unreliable. If it were really about minerals, then the US would just continue to do as it always has: just buy them.

Sure I'll grant you Trump is dumb enough to think that invading a friendly country might somehow make the resources cheaper to extract from the ground, he doesn't have a solid concept of paying workers after all. But if that's the case he's still stupid and he's lying when he says the US doesn't need anything from Canada, and also lying when he says it'll make the US look good on the map.

Not sure why people want to assume Trump is lying when he says dumb shit and further assume he has some other motive that might seem reasonable, but is also dumb shit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

I think you're rather optimistic bright there thinking that Trump ever looked at a globe, and I don't mean that jokingly

I'm also not trying to underestimate trumo, I really don't believe he is that smart. The people pushing and likely controlling him are, though