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[–] [email protected] 225 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yes, the old strategy of overwhelming the hospital system with mouth breathers.

Amazing strategy, Raisinhead.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I consider him more of an apple head.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Pretty sure I stole this one from here on Lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Better than the one I stole from Lemmy

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Well yeah. Stolen from Lemmy from someone that stole it from Luke McGarry. Or more likely stolen a dozen times before it ended up on my phone lol.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Hospitals should be able to refuse patients who get diseases that are preventable with vaccines. Problem solved.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 days ago (7 children)

No. For multiple reasons:

  • Vaccines are not 100% effective. They reduce the likelihood of infection if you are exposed. The whole point of trying to get everyone vaccinated is to reduce the infection rate so that there's less likely to be an outbreak. With a vaccinated population, the virus can't spread fast enough to maintain a pool of infected people to keep spreading it. But that doesn't mean nobody gets sick.
  • Vaccines are not as effective on some people. There's a range of effectiveness.
  • Not everyone can get vaccinated. People with certain allergies or compromised immune systems in particular.
  • Some parts of the population have higher risk factors than others and when they get sick it can be much more serious. Usually the very old and the very young. And again, people with compromised immune systems, or other conditions that complicate the illness.
  • Kids whose parents refuse to get them vaccinated are put at elevated risk through no fault of their own.

I could probably keep going, but hopefully you get the idea why that's just not a viable approach.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everybody who gets vaccinated is documented as having gotten vaccinated, no?

So why can't hospitals check the record and confirm that patients have been vaccinated? If they have, then everything's fine. If they couldn't get vaccinated for legitimate reasons, that'd be documented too.

The point is to ensure as many people are vaccinated as possible, not to prove a point about the efficacy of vaccines.

That said, I dislike the idea of healthcare being able to pick and choose, for any reason, not to treat someone. Then again I live in a sane country with free healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

That said, I dislike the idea of healthcare being able to pick and choose, for any reason, not to treat someone.

This is exactly the problem. Once you start talking about who does and does not deserve healthcare, you've gone to a place I refuse to follow. There is far too much nuance to start drawing lines in the sand.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (4 children)

That's unfortunately an extremely slippery slope.

If vaccines (or lack thereof) are enough to refuse "service", why treat lung cancer in smokers? What about type 2 diabetes?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (12 children)

And what about my wife? She's allergic to the measles vaccination.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That seems different than a refusal, no? That seems more like a medical incompatibility.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People use bullshit excuses all the time to avoid getting their kids vaccinated, including "allergies".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Allergies" are medically provable. Bullshit reasons are stuff like "sky daddy told me I don't hafta" and "the govmint can't 5g me"

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

That’s a contrarian question, of course there would be loopholes for that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I assume it would be documented and considered an exception

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

She lost the documentation years ago. We're almost 40.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can either get the documentation reprinted, or get tested, no?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Yes, but it's just another thing on the pile of shit we're dealing with right now. The fact that she is a woman already doesn't bode well. We're just glad that we're both sterilized, all things considered...

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hospitals should be able to refuse RFK Jr and his immediate family.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Can’t argue with that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (5 children)

They perhaps don't need to. The staff in hospitals only got a few token coins as reward for the previous pandemic, and didn't get much raise or better working conditions since then. People are already walking away because overworked and underpaid. It's likely a lot of them just quit when a new pandemic would start and the hospitals can barely function.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

apparently its more contagious than most viruses, they will probably to try to prevent them from going into the hospital

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They’ll definitely want to put them in no contact rooms, but it’s not like those rooms are plentiful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

and ANti-maskers, distance, and vaxxer will throw a huge fit and fight the staff, like they did with covid, causing many to leave the industry.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’ve actually met more anti-vax nurses than anti-vax non-nurses. Had one who was wearing a mask complain about being forced to wear a mask because she had not been vaccinated for ANYTHING! Jfc. I’m sure this is not the majority, but it’s pretty shocking how many medical professionals know squat about medicine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i forgot how many nurses slip through the cracks. some areas, red states will waive certain parts of becoming a nurse because its such a big shortage, while others have more stringent regulations. nurses are the ones that assume they know everything because they got a a nursing degree.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

It got pretty crazy when Covid hit and they just shoved nurses through the program. A lot of them got out and immediately made Covid bank, didn’t have to work, and are now freaking out that pay has gone back to normal, and people now have time to audit their performance. It is a pretty shitty situation for them though, hardly any of them got trained on the things they never got to learn in school. I heard one nurse managed to go two solid years without having to do an IV cause they never learned.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Shit — This week — I have a relative that had to wait 3 days in the ER to be transferred to a bigger hospital. The big hospital didn’t have a bed.

The hospital system in America has been overwhelmed for over a month and a half straight now.

Anymore stress beyond the current quademic (and whatever the unknown illness is — have we figured that out yet?) and we will have to bring back keeping people outside and firing up the refrigerator trucks again.

these damn jackals

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Hey now, my nose is always stuffy. That has nothing to do with my great stupidity.