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Honda is known for quality, and every old Nissan I see falls apart. I hope this doesn’t tank the quality of Honda.
Quality of basically every automaker has tanked post COVID, including Honda. And the prices are highway robbery too, its all a race to the bottom now.
So car-centrism is even more ✨ terrible ✨ now? Golly, who could've predicted that relying on and enforcing a single industry for most of our transportation might result in rampant enshittification?
Please. Cars are no more susceptible to enshittification than any other consumer good.
Okay, enjoy your subscription seatwarmers, I guess.
That proves your point how exactly? You can come up with dozens of other products that try to charge a monthly fee to access features that used to be free. Or stuff it completely full of ads. Everything is going to shit.
Re prices.
This is what is pissing me off - I'm subsidizing car manufacturers by not being able to buy cheap Chinese cars, yet the assholes focus on expensive trucks I don't need. If I'm socializing their losses - I don't want them building cyber trucks, I want cheap affordable vehicles.
I don't drive Nissans but a family memebr of mine has forever I don't mind them and haven't seen too many issues, im just glad Mitsubishi isn't a large part of this, yet anyway.
I worked at a mechanic shop years ago and every Nissan that came in was falling apart, but they were all older 90s ones. Seats that don’t stay up, plastic panels broken and missing, glove boxes opened, latches and knobs broken, etc.
I owned a Mitsubishi before and it was like a Honda civic but way lower quality. It held up ok except when the brakes didn’t want to work when I really needed them. Yes I rear ended a few times until I decided to SCRAP the car at the junkers.
I owned several Hondas and they all were good quality (mostly 80-90s and a 2000). Usually basic maintenance it all it needed.
I think the poor condition of most Nissans, at least in the US, says a lot less about the cars themselves than it does about the type of people who inevitably own them.
My brother loves his xterra so much he is on his 3rd (first was an accident, second went to the ex in the divorce). I rarely ride in it, but it seems kinda like a rattle trap to me. I dont know how much of that is his abuse and how much is the car.
I'm on my 2nd Frontier as the first one was taken out by a red light are optional driver. My 2nd one I bought used for cheap because the previous owner didn't take care of it at all. Other than doing such a poor job trying to fix a head gasket leak I had to send the block to a machine shop to get an insert put in for a head bolt. It's also had low end knocking caused by worn bearing the whole time I've had it. I've put almost 100k on it and it just keeps trucking! It is a shitbox though, but it's MY shitbox lol
It was a BMW driver, wasn't it?
A Prius actually!
Gotta stay out of their way! They needed to coast through that light to keep the MPG above 40! 😂
I have a Prius now so I understand now lol
My 2018 Honda Accord has been a nightmare, and I stubbornly refuse to replace it until it's 10 years old. I half-wonder if the quality has already started to go downhill.
From the factory, the air conditioner dumped all of its condensation onto the passenger-seat floorboards. Since then, I've had to get the AC unit replaced twice.
EVERYTHING rattles in that car -- the seatbelt mounts, the visors, all kinds of stuff inside the front console (maybe inside the ventilation system?), the front defroster bezel, and the trim around the back window. It drives me absolutely bonkers.
I'd actually been hoping Nissan would get their shit together in regards to their CVT transmissions... because my favorite car over the years was my 2003 Nissan Maxima.
...I guess I should see what Mazda has to offer...
Yikes, sorry to hear about your accord! That’s just crazy.
I stopped caring about cars newer than about 2012 or so, when they all got touch screen info centers that sell the driving data to the insurance companies. Just makes me sick.
My anecdotal experience with Mazdas have been generally really good
I had a 2002 Protege5 for 15 yrs. Besides normal wear items, it was solid. I only sold it because family meant I needed a larger vehicle. I do miss it at times though. Just got a CX-90 for my wife, so here’s hoping we get the same results. I tend to average about 15yrs on a car so far and I’d like to keep that number up.
That says a lot more about the owners than it does about the vehicles.
I guess, the owners took their cars into the shop to fix (X) and nothing else, even though there was so much wrong they didn’t want it fixed.
I know it's anecdotal..but my 2019 Odyssey has so far needed a lot more work than my 2013 Passat. Considering I got both of them at 1 year old.
This is completely counter to most expectations.
honda are having a lot more lemons lately, my 2020-ish CRV was a lemon that wouldn't start after a few days. my previous hondas were great but that one (especially how they responded to it) drove me away from the brand for good.
The Odyssey just had a dead battery yesterday. Thats permissible, it's cold out, she's taking a lot of short trips (out getting last minute gifts on the big retail stroad), and the battery is 5 years old.
The battery died in the movie theater parking lot (getting gift cards), and that's how we found out that the only way to get it into neutral was to turn a little knob under the air filter with a pair of pliers, and hold it in place while moving the car.
Otherwise, the car must be running to shift into neutral. Who the fuck came up with that idea. Like, I understand the brake-shift-interlock. This was a push button shifter, and this was the override they chose.
So it was either wait for everybody to finish the Sunday matinee of Wicked so someone can move their car and I could slip in to jump it from mine...or buy a battery and get tools and replace it there in the parking lot.
I chose the latter. Didn't want to drive all the way home, though, and I "knew" I was missing all my 10mm sockets...fortunately BJs had a nice DeWalt mechanics toolset on clearance, and that plus the battery cost less than just a battery at the parts store.
If you had your new battery and your jumper cables, there would be no reason to buy the tools. You put your new battery on the ground and jump you car from it. Your car will run on the power from the alternator with a completely dead battery. Without turning off the now running car, disconnect the jumper cables and drive the car home where your tools are.
Don't tell my wife that. And honestly I knew that. I just wanted an excuse to buy a matching socket set.
My last one was a "task force" mechanic set that my parents got me nearly over 20 years ago when I got my license.
American Passat or euro? My dad's 2012 has been rock solid
Chattanooga!
I'm sure mergers have improved things, but all the recent meegers I can think of have made thibgs worse. My guess is that it will be a net negative for Honda, although they are dragging their feet hard enough on EVs and hybrids that they were heading down that path anyway.
I had a '92 Nissan D21 truck. I bought it in 2015 with 120k miles for $2000 in great condition. Drove it another 150k miles, only needed to replace the starter, shocks and struts, and a battery (with other regular maintenance of course). Sold it two years later for $2000. One of the best trucks I've ever had.
Maybe it was just the models I saw that fell apart, not every Nissan. The only ones I saw that bad were the ones that came into the shop to have something fixed unrelated to all the broken stuff.
Nissans post-Renault partnership might be questionable in areas. 70s, 80s, 90s Nissan engineering was superior to Honda as far as I'm concerned. I've taken multiple old Datsuns/Nissans north of 300k miles with very few problems.
I still see a lot of Datsuns on the road. Always wanted a little pickup like theirs.