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Intel's $249 Arc B580 is the GPU we've begged for since the pandemic | PCWorld (www.pcworld.com)

submitted 3 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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If even half of Intel's claims are true, this could be a big shake up in the midrange market that has been entirely abandoned by both Nvidia and AMD.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I always wondered who they were making those mid- and low-end cards with a ridiculous amount of VRAM for... It was you.

All this time I thought they were scam cards to fool people who believe that bigger number always = better.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

Also "ridiculously" is relative lol.

The Llm/workstation crowd would buy a 48GB 4060 without even blinking, if that were possible. These workloads are basically completely vram constrained.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, AMD and Intel should be running high VRAM SKUs for hobbyists. I doubt it'll cost them that much to double the RAM, and they could mark them up a bit.

I'd buy the B580 if it had 24GB RAM, at 12GB, I'll probably give it a pass because my 6650 XT is still fine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Don’t you need nvidia cards to run ai stuff?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Nah, ollama works w/ AMD just fine, just need a model w/ enough VRAM.

I'm guessing someone would get Intel to work as well if they had enough VRAM.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Not at all

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Like the 3060? And 4060 TI?

Its ostensibly because they’re “too powerful” for their vram to be cut in half (so 6GB on the 3060 and 8GB on the 4060 TI), but yes, more generally speaking these are sweetspot for vram heavy workstation/compute workloads. Local LLMs are just the most recent one.

Nvidia cuts vram at the high end to protect their server/workstation cards, AMD does it… Just because?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

More like back in the day when you would see vendors slapping 1GB on a card like the Radeon 9500, when the 9800 came with 128MB.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Ah yeah those were the good old days when vendors were free to do that, before AMD/Nvidia restricted them. It wasn't even that long ago, I remember some AMD 7970s being double VRAM.

And, again, I'd like to point out how insane this restriction is for AMD given their market struggles...