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[–] [email protected] 199 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Ah hahahaha!!!!

Windows! Some dumbass put Windows on a supercomputer!

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Ironically, even Microsoft uses Linux in its Azure datacenters, iirc

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They use a mixture of Windows and Linux. They do use Linux quite a bit, but they also have a lot of Hyper-V servers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

True. Never meant to say they use Linux exclusively; thanks for clarification anyway!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Apple uses both Linux and Windows (not for datacenters) too.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Good point.

But still, the 30% efficient supercomputer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Heh. I don't think that number was ever official, but I heard it as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I don't think either of the chart's axes list efficiency?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Heh. I don't think that number was ever official, but I heard it as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh that was hyperbole, I didn't expect to be taken literally!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Lol. Well good guess.

I'm not a primary source or anything, of course. Your comment just matches something I heard once in office gossip.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago

Probably need one, just for the benchmark comparisons.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

And Mac! Whatever that means 🤣

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A supercomputer running Windows HPC Server 2008 actually ranked 23 in TOP500 in June 2008.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I always forget that Windows Server even exists, because the name is so stupid. "windows" should mean "gui ~~interface~~ to os."

edit: fixed redundacy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

But Windows Server has GUI. Although a server having GUI (not webui, desktop) is kinda stupid

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd say having a GUI is not inherently stupid. The stupid part is, if I understand it correctly, the GUI being a required component and the primary access method.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah. Thankfully, Windows server cleaned up that stupidity starting around 2006 and finished in around 2018.

Which all sounds fine until we meditate on the history that basically all other server operating systems have had efficient remote administration solutions since before 1995 (reasonable solutions existed before SSH, even).

Windows was over 20 years late to adopt non-grapgical low latency (aka sane) options for remote administration.

I think it's a big part of the reason Windows doesn't appear much on this chart.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The GUI is optional these days, and there's plenty of Windows servers that don't use it. The recommended administration approach these days is PowerShell remoting, often over SSH now that Windows has a native SSH server bundled (based on OpenSSH).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

That gives me the idea of windows server installed on bare metal configured as a lightweight game runner. (much like a linux distro with minimal wm)

I've seen people using slightly modified windows server as an unbloated gaming OS but I'm not sure if running a custom minimal GUI on windows server is possible. You seem knowledgeable on the subject, with enough effort, is it possible?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Would a Windows Enterprise 10 LTSC IoT edition be better than Windows Server though?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I don't think I know enough to answer that question, sorry!