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No the DSM-V did that
Science doesn't use the term, it is antiquated and no longer scientifically relevant. Science says that caffeine does not cause substance use disorders.
Numerous articles define caffeine as addictive as well
You're so close to understanding what I'm wanting from this thread and this conversation. Caffeine is a problematic drug that we take too lightly. I do not believe we should be giving it to children, nor do I believe adults should use it frequently.
But, to your point, society does say that caffeine is addicting (we're in a thread that is sufficient proof of that) but society agrees that the "addiction" is minor enough that it is not a big deal. I'm also sure many people would agree that sugar is addictive and yet we feed that to kids more than anyone else.
The "addictiveness" of one thing being more severe does not mean a less severe substance cannot also be "addictive". Because a gun only kills one person and nuclear warhead kills millions does not mean the gun cannot be described as lethal.
Because I don't work in opinions, I work in science. The DSM-V says (and I can't believe I'm stating this for a fifth time, I'll put it in capitalized letters to make sure you see it) ADDICTION IS NOT A SCIENTIFIC TERM, so nobody will say that anything is addictive in scientific contexts because that would be a scientifically invalid statement.
Nice, condescension and sexism. Please, I want to have a civil conversation with you about this topic, you do not need to go disparaging me or others to make your point.
You stated the DSM matters. You started the conversation with it.
No, it is not, because "addiction" is not defined in the DSM-V besides a note about how the DSM-V does not use the term.
In scientific contexts, yes. Absolutely I believe that.
I am quite literally citing sources that are not my opinion but are instead current scientific reality or common interpretations. My opinion just happens to agree with the science and I am not bothered by non-scientists using a non-scientific word in whatever way gets the conversation going. I am also citing the opinions of 90% of individuals in this thread - they seem to agree that caffeine is addictive.
I really want to come to an understanding between us and find some place to land.
I understand your perspective - you don't want people to use a term that you feel has a specific definition because you feel that it trivializes your experience - and I think it's not an unreasonable thing to want. I don't want to trivialize those suffering from substance use disorders.
But my perspective is that people are using "addiction" as a communication tool in a non-scientific context and that there is no harm in that. It gets the point across and we are able to successfully communicate about the topic. Sidelining the conversation with corrections on terminology is really not helpful, especially when that terminology is no longer scientifically relevant.
We should be discussing the impacts of caffeine on our bodies and our society, not whether or not one word is better than the other.
And I'm arguing you're wrong. I have evidence to support it. You don't. End of discussion.
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Cite one.
Come on, now you're just being rude and dismissive. I'm trying to come together here and come to an understanding.
What, where? You've sited the DSM-V and anecdotes, the former disagrees with you and the latter is opinion
Here's two:
News article using the term "addiction":
Inside Caffeine Addicts Anonymous: 'It Controlled Me Enough' which also mentions a support group, like the ones you reference: Caffeine Addicts Anonymous
Scientific article using the term "addiction":
Caffeine Intoxication and Addiction
Whether or not you agree with them, the point is that it is commonly used.
It took how many comments for you to finally say something of substance? That is why this discussion is dead.
FTR lol at citing a news article about recovery programs you dismissed ages ago, and an article dated back to the DSM-IV supposedly in the era of invalid language.
Bye
So I give you articles that are not only referencing the exact version of addiction you want and mention a support group that you keep referencing and you dismiss them because it's inconvenient. I fit the references to something you might find convincing. I didn't find sources that convinced me I found sources that might convince you.
But please, provide your own evidence, as you referenced earlier. I have provided mine, and I await yours.
You have literally said nothing at this point beyond referencing outdated version of the manual and anecdotal evidence.