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[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They also doing anything about the conservative culture that likely caused their brain drain in the first place?

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's actually much less conservative than the surrounding areas. Though admittedly it only takes a stone's throw to get into some pretty gruesome backwoods. The real issue is that there aren't any jobs in the area. It's too out of the way for tourism, all the factories have closed down, and the railroad just isn't what it used to be.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (4 children)

So functionally they hand you money, you can't find a job that pays your bills, so you leave and they've gained nothing. Or is the subsidy ongoing as long as they're short on people (haha until the end of time!) Or is there something else in place to help keep people there?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah. Seems pointless, but I bet they're trying to attract folks with work-from-home jobs.

There's a big migration of work-from-home folks out to areas where they can have bigger homes, gardens and such.

I think the theory is that whichever towns or cities attract these folks first will grow into long term preferred work-from-home destinations, using the tax revenue and voting habits of the first folks to move in.

It's a gamble, but an interesting one.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Start with bringing in the fiber. I can deal without overnight delivery, a good sushi place or a brewpub, but I draw the line at fiber

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yep. I think high quality Internet roll-out will make or break some of these plans.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why are we assuming all work from home jobs require fiber?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

WFH jobs may not require fiber to the home, but if there's no fiber infrastructure to support the overall traffic of the area then it's just not going to work. Particularly when we're talking about getting internet out to rural areas - fiber carries signal much further than copper, and can thus reach more communities.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Maybe I’m spoiled with fiber but I know I’d never want to go back, even just for video calls. Give how over-provisioned and glitchy most internet connections are, you do need a huge margin of overcapacity to get a reliable call in.

But yeah, as the other guy said, you’re going to need fiber to the town for more than a couple people. Even cable internet needs fiber to the neighborhood.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

For WFH crows the town needs fiber, and in another post he stated the town doesn't have that.

I can see your point and that's what I figured they were trying to attract

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's Starlink, now. But somehow, relying on a Musk product to be able to do your job seems... risky.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Y’all are describing me with astounding accuracy, hah!

Moved from big city to small nearby city for the garden, work from home, no cable or fiber internet, so gotta rely on Starlon Lusk

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I had fios in Cumberland. I don't know if there are other choices though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For WFH crows the town needs fiber, and in another post he stated the town doesn’t have that.

Did I? I don't know if Cumberland has fiber options nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You posted a photo of Cumberland and said (at the time) fiber options were low

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You sure it was me? I could have said that, I have memory like swiss cheese, but I can't find any mention of Cumberland or fiber on my three profiles (Kbin, World, dbzer0)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I misremembered Monsterknees comment chain in your photo of Cumberland, went back and looked.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

No worries! I was just wondering if I'd known something about fibre availability in Cumberland and just forgot it, lol

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

This is explicitly for full-time remote workers.

As part of a broader effort to recapture some of the city’s former vitality, Cumberland is hoping to take advantage of the pandemic shift to remote work by giving $20,000 to 10 home buyers who promise to invest in those properties and become part of the community.

[...]

It’s really to attract people who will benefit your community,” said Cumberland City Council member Laurie Marchini. “It’s not a social services program; it’s to bring people in who are employed.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/08/30/cumberland-maryland-revival/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I think they're hoping to attract remote workers from the cities. It's a historic town in a scenic area, so it has that going for it at least.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

You can only get the subsidy if:

  1. You become a homeowner.

  2. You have a job or self-employment in the area.

  3. You stay there for 3 years. Or was it 5 years? Something like that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I think they count that as in the area, trying not to get megacommuters is the thing. I think.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

At least it’s something different from the disappointing status quo of dying towns in America. Still sad. Pictures of the town make it look like it’s a charming little place. Hopefully things can turn around for it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd like to hear more about the backwoods you refer to as greusome!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lord. Stone's throw from the city limits and you can hear dueling banjos. No grocery stores for miles, but multiple churches. Yards filled with scrap metal. Animals either roaming free or chained up inside a small area all day long. Casual usage of the n-bomb.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Sounds like every yard between Cumberland and Keyser, to me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

It was the lose of jobs as industry moved away, a trend started after WW2.

The culture probably helped but it's a much larger trend than people simply not wanting to live in a conservative town.