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Thats a bit of a glass heart take. I, personally, don't think animals should suffer before they're slaughtered. They should live happy lives up until then. But we're predators just like any other carnivore.
The only difference is that we have stronger emotions and the ability to consider the consequences of our actions as well as empathy for other beings.
But if you like meat, you're not being a baby. If anything it's the opposite. You care less about the animals than the meat it comes from. And I don't think that's wrong. That's just evolution.
We're such strong predators, that the majority of humans will never even kill their prey. We cage animals and slaughter them to feed our masses. And as long as we do that ethically (which we're not. I'll admit that), I don't think it's a bad thing, it's nature.
You wouldn't deny a lion it's prey, so why berate fellow humans for the same thing? Instead the focus should be on ethical and sustainable ranching and farming.
Like half of the water in the US goes to grow plants to feed animals that we eat. Fuck those animals, I want that water.
"...I don’t think it’s a bad thing, it’s nature."
We do a lot of things that aren't natural but still benefit us or others. On the flip side, rape, pedophilia and murder are all "natural"—that is to say, they happen in other species of animals—and yet most of us would probably condemn more than 0 of those.
"You wouldn't deny a lion its prey" is a terrible take, I absolutely would if I could. The major difference is that lions are: obligate carnivores, don't speak english nor understand human morality, and-more importantly—known to kill humans for getting too close. If I could save a gazelle and make sure the lion doesn't starve, I'd absolutely train them to eat garbanzelles and zebrussels.
"And as long as we do that ethically... Instead the focus should be on ethical..."
How does one even form a system of ethics when the fundamental premise is not the sanctity of life? Seriously, what's the point of following any rules if I can just kill anyone who takes exception to my behavior?
Morality isn't the only reason to do it. Just fucking do it.
I like meat, and if it's not for morality then what other reason is there?
Climate impact, health, the feeling of superiority
I haven't found a compelling reason to do it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JDUjeR01wnU
Not watching that I'm just gonna pretend it reinforces my viewpoint
Why should I
If you don't I will literally die
Are you one of those people who identify as a pig or something?
XD hell yeah bro
Back the fuck up cos I ain't halal
It's not what goes into my mouth that defiles me but what comes out of it 😈😈😈
For the first six months, I'd be very very sad, and that is not accounting for the additional shopping time. Maybe if I had a vegen chef to help me transition.
That said, my meat intake is probably below average, but I am a cheese junkie.
Just do it, find out if it's actually that bad. Find out if you actually like cheese that much
Plants feel pain. Humans just haven't gathered enough evidence to demonstrate it as fact.