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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Oh please! I'd love to see Big Oil shrivel and die just like our societies and very planet have under their influence.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They will just take all their oil billions and buy up battery companies at the last moment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How are they going to convert their assets in that scenario? The value of oil will just go down from here on out, eventually it'll reach a point where it starts going back up again because it'll be such a hard to acquire commodity for the few people that want it.

Eventually we'll get to a point where the only people who use oil are rich people who can afford to run vintage cars and presumably pay some kind of carbon offset tax.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And even for vintage cars and stuff, I assume we'll see better eco friendly and bio fuels being created that could be made in smaller batches without needing to use conventional oil as the fuel. Starting to see more and more of this on aviation already, and even some old warbirds have done recent tests on these fuels and run really well.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Yeah the US Airforce tested all their planes even the stealth bomber on a SAF that can be made from sequestered carbon, they said it passed all tests and that it would be a great way to be fuel independent, they're especially interested as it seems to look possible to fit carbon capture and processing in a small enough package to fit in an aircraft carrier. Even if manned planes aren't as useful in future conflicts we'll likely see drones that use jet fuel replace them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Too bad the lithium battery industry is no better. Those places are child labor slave mines and the environmental damage is astronomical..

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is true but coal mining is just as bad and requires orders of magnitude (mineral fuels) more excavation than all of the other minerals combined. If we can stop mining coal by using renewables the total amount of mining will be a fraction of what it currently is. Plus many of the other minerals can be reused where coal just ends up as carbon in the atmosphere.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is exactly it. Of course battery production is harmful too, but not only is it less harmful than other sources to extract, you also don't have to burn batteries to generate the power. With fossil fuels, the extraction is massively more harmful and then the use itself creates even more pollution.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Trees are technically a green, renewable fuel (if humanity used them that way). The carbon dioxide released is that which was sequestered during the tree's life.

But oil is gathering material that accrued over vast amounts of time, and using that, dumping huge volumes of co2 directly onto the air. There's no cycle happening there - just pure extraction for our extinction.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

You really sound desperate to reject any possibility that hard work and human ingenuity can solve problems. I assume it's because you're scared of feeling you have to actually take life seriously and consider the implications of each choice you make.