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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

Yeah the documentation (if it even exists) of most projects is usually clearly written by people intimately familiar with the project and then never reviewed to make sure it makes sense for people unfamiliar with it. But writing good detailed documentation is also really hard, especially for a specialist because many nontrivial things are trivial to them and they believe what they're writing is thorough and well explained even though it actually isn't.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Bold of you to assume I know how to read!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is why Technical Writer is a full time job.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's also why the humanities are important. Stemlords who brag about not doing literature classes write terrible documentation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

My CS major required me to take two upper division English classes and I think they helped me more in my career than my upper division CS classes. People forget that documentation is for ourselves too

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe, just maybe, people have different strengths and weaknesses and cooperating around our differences is what makes us succeed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you know your weakness is writing documentation, please hire a technical writer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

That's exactly what I'm saying, sorry if it came across somehow askew.

My point was there is no point in competing over whose job is "better", we should be working together.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"set all environment variables"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

More recently its go to discord for the env....no joke.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My face actually dropped when I read this. I will be so mad if I ever encounter this live.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It sucks....and seems to be catching on. Ive seen a quite a few on GitHub that are now referencing using it instead of the issue tracker.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That is so depressing. Literally a markdown file in the repo would be a better issue tracker.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

This is cursed, but also cool. Hijack another platform for your authentication

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

This is why I did a β€œwalkthrough test” when I had to write documentation on this sort of thing. I’m a terrible technical writer, so this shit is necessary for me.

I grabbed my friend who knows enough about computers to attempt this, but not enough about infrastructure to automatically know what I meant when I was too vague.

Took two revisions, but the final document was way easier to follow at the end

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's why blog posts rock. Most popular projects will have a dozen blog posts for different configurations. For example, when looking to set up NextCloud, I found docs for almost all combinations of the following:

  • Apache and Nginx configuration
  • running through Docker or directly on the host
  • MariaDB and Postgres configs (and SQLite, with proper disclaimers)
  • Collabora and OnlyOffice config

It does take some knowledge of each of the above if you need one of the few configs that's not available on a blog post, and some of the posts are outdated, but with a bit of searching almost everything is documented by someone on the internet.

This shouldn't be necessary (official docs should be more comprehensive), but at least it's available.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Okay, please point me to the blog posts that helped you with collabora/onlyoffice. Thanks have NEVER been able to get that to work with my nextcloud (currently using the Docker AIO).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The mistake is the assumption of a certain level of end user knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

You have to assume some level of end user knowledge, otherwise every piece of documentation would start with "What a computer does" and "How to turn your computer on."

I've found the best practice is to list your assumptions at the top of the article with links to more detailed instructions.