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Source: https://xkcd.com/2839/

Explain XKCD: https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2839

Title text: My first words were 'These were my first words; what were yours?'

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Who learns twelve before one through eleven?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago

That's my favorite part of this joke.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is twelve a number or a word?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There is only a distinction when written, when spoken everything is words.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We have solid reason to believe numbers are a pretty distinct symbolic category. We don't use the same part of the brain we use for speech to process numbers. We use a different distinct part of the brain that is not used for speech and is more related with visual processing. Both, speech and number areas, are activated when we read spelled out numbers, and even homophones pointing to the theory that numerals develop into their own thing inside our brains.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But being able to express those symbols in a sentence requires words

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's more like, they can exist in our head without being words. So they are a distinct thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That's fine. So the kid has a concept of 1-11 but doesn't know the words for them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's in a superposition of states until observed.