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Adobe's Employees Are Just As Upset at the Company As Its Users: Report (petapixel.com)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Adobe’s employees are typically of the same opinion of the company as its users, having internally already expressed concern that AI could kill the jobs of their customers. That continued this week in internal discussions, where exasperated employees implored leadership to not let it be the “evil” company customers think it is.

This past week, Adobe became the subject of a public relations firestorm after it pushed an update to its terms of service that many users saw at best as overly aggressive and at worst as a rights grab. Adobe quickly clarified it isn’t spying on users and even promised to go back and adjust its terms of service in response.

For many though, this was not enough, and online discourse surrounding Adobe continues to be mostly negative. According to internal Slack discussions seen by Business Insider, as before, Adobe’s employees seem to be siding with users and are actively complaining about Adobe’s poor communications and inability to learn from past mistakes.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I doubt they're unionized. A strike without a union is just refusing to do your job.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's what it is with a union too, it's just more organized. You can strike without a union, it's just a lot harder to organize and the stakes are way higher.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And with a union, you have legal protection. Individually, you don't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not necessarily. Private unions exist and don't have legal protection.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've never heard of private unions, so I googled. Sounds like it's just a union at a private company? That's probably the vast majority of unions. And yes, they have protection under the NLRA.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

You're right! I didn't realize individual workers and informal unions had a right to strike.

But their protections are a lot more limited than public unions, like the teachers or police unions. If you're striking for better pay or conditions, it seems you can be replaced and, depending on circumstances, fired without legal repercussions, whereas if it's for unfair labor practices, you have more protections.

But you do have a lot more legal protections than I thought, so that's good to know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

in general, assume any conpany where a good bulk of the employees are software engineers to not be unionized. many programmers tend to make significantly more constantly jumping companies, hence the turnover rate and not needing to unionize. Its also kinda ingrained in the hiring structure too as many of the large conpanies contract developers and not hire them outright.