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[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

Usually I’d call someone like that a hypocrite, but considering he took two bullets… I understand why he wouldn’t want a repeat of that experience.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Weirdly “it’s gods will” doesn’t apply in this case.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I mean it does, god wanted him to get shot twice and survive and then build a bulletproof popemobile to not get shot a third time.

God's will is a pretty ironclad argument as long as you don't really believe in free will, or at least believe that God is powerful enough to know how every decision will be made in spite of free will.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Why did god want the pope shot?

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"God works in mysterious ways"

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (3 children)

God wanted a popemobile. Q.E.D.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

What does God need with a ~~starship~~ popemobile?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Quantum Erectile Dysfunction: I swear it's hard when you're not directly observing it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago

To teach him that dignitaries on display are vulnerable to snipers

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

To make him holy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Probably for covering up all those pedophiles.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Also...he took two bullets, if his God wanted him dead he had the opportunity.

It's like the question of why wear a bulletproof vest if you're immortal, it's not like divine protection stops bullets from hurting.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So his god wanted him to be hurt, why then the popemobile? Why interfere with god's will?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Something something "God helps those who help themselves." Don't think too hard about the cognitive dissonance, they sure aren't going to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Clearly it was god's will that he got a popemobile since that ended up happening

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Did you hear the story of the man on the roof of his house when it was flooding? I think that was a west wing bit… God wants you to have a bulletproof vest.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

That joke’s pretty much as old as time, with lots of versions.

And for those who don’t get the reference:

https://youtu.be/06dQaOZIcH0?si=6TX5aRn9PRbuf1kX

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean, if He's all powerfull, he could stop them from hurting, or even have made them miss.

So not only did He want the pope shot, he wanted it to hurt.

Which leads to the other way around:

If an omnipotent God wants him shot again, then it will happen. No bullet proof vest or glass is going to stop God's will. So why bother?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

ahem The deity he follows says that he should turn the other cheek and not only allow it to happen again, but to happily and freely provide the opportunity. You can still call him hypocritical.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

To be fair, that was advice for nonviolent resistance against the state, in a context where slapping someone's other cheek presented social difficulties to the oppressor. In order to slap someone's other cheek you had to use your unclean left hand, disgracing yourself by vulgar behaviour, or use a forehand slap with your right hand, which implicitly acknowledges the victim as your social equal. Turning the other cheek is a great way to fuck with the Romans.

The New Testament is full of practical advice for anarchist Jews to use against the state.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Why didn't his god protect him?

Was it the kiddie fiddling?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Clearly he did, he didn't die from those shots did he

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

So god called him twice and he didn't answer.