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[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

Reported Dec 31, 2019, eh?

I was terminally online during that time, and some reports of a truly awful pneumonia in China were going around as early as mid-November. It was definitely known to be a major outbreak by early December. A lot of the early reports were taken down; just ~~CCCP~~ CCP doing ~~CCCP~~ CCP things.

Edit: whoops thought it had that extra C in there. Should probably use CPC anyway.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I remember seeing TikToks about it way before December. Lots of “there are a LOT of people sick in China right now with pneumonia, and it has actually started to hurt their economy. It’ll eventually make its way over here” types of things. The warning signs were there, for those who cared to look.

I mostly saw it on the finance side of tiktok, since lots of financial analysts were like “uhh this shit could crash the economy if it spreads.”

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

When is the earliest heath officials reported it though? That paragraph doesn't disagree with your memory.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Considering there were quarantines in December, I'm pretty sure health officials were in the know. Though official international reporting may not have happened until Dec 31.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Well yeah. If people all over the world knew weeks earlier, obviously the health officials knew. But if they didn't report it before, that doesn't disagree with the textbook.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I was working in the hospital at the time from a big-picture perspective and it seemed pneumonia cases were already spiking in the US during December 2019. My sister and my coworker both came down with a nasty "pneumonia" during then as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I was living in Oklahoma and I remember some of the local media mentioning this "coronavirus" thing that was spreading in China. I also remember people joking about Corona (the beer) being suddenly less popular.

Then in February, March, and April it getting more and more serious, and this is about the time that people started claiming it wasn't real, and if it was, it wasn't that bad, and if it was, then it was from a chinese lab bent on taking down the US...

April-May had me re-adjusting my previous opinions of people around me that I thought were rational.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I remember I first heard about it a few days earlier, just after Christmas

[–] [email protected] -5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Vape lung was pandemic in the states in 2019, even in non-vapers like my dad as well, and then disappeared post-covid?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

In 2019 there was an outbreak of a respiratory condition called EVALI and commonly referred to as 'vape lung.'

Reported cases sharply dropped off in 2020, despite an increase in vape sales.

I just think it's interesting, is all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I suspect the dumbfounded reply you received was because one expected the word 'epidemic' to be used instead.

'pandemic' usually is taken to mean it has spread across several international boundaries. 'pan,' meaning 'all.'

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't that traced back to bad thc carts?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Vitamin E and MCT oil are the most heavily cited causes and you can still get cartridges made with both.