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[–] [email protected] 63 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The key is that with the right use case, it frees up lithium to be used where only it is suitable.

(for my needs I'd be fine with sodium...)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I can see that. My point is that the only electric car that has that range in the U.S. is the Leaf, which goes 168 miles on the smaller battery. I don't need an electric car that goes that many miles between charges. I'd be fine with 90. I'd probably be fine with less than 90. We have a second car if we ever want to leave town. I'd ditch my hybrid and get a cheaper electric car that didn't have a huge range, but it isn't even on offer.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dude get a used Leaf or Bolt. There is a $4k tax credit or direct price reduction for used now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Got any info on that? Looking at buying out my EV lease and wonder if I can get that added.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

For sure! I think we're going to have to move away from a one-size fits all car design. For general city use, I use a Chevy Bolt, but for longer (infrequent) runs, I'm still stuck with ICE (I'd use a hybrid if I had one). In Canada, the range really does go down in the winter. (and Canada has not taken charging infrastructure very seriously - mandatory for adoption)

Anyway you look at it, these are very, very positive developments.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

check out the bmw i3 if you are good with that range

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They are as expensive as the other EVs and aren't eligible for the US reimbursement 🫤

They are kinda ugly too... Which sucks because I really love the BMW driving experience

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would love to have an electric smart car for running errands.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Exactly! Something cheap and tiny for just going around town.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

My problem is that I need >100 mile range. I live in a cold climate and have a 50 mile, round-trip commute (and high speed, so even worse range), so if EVs get half the range in the winter, I could stuck. There isn't a big set of cars in the 100-150 mile range, usually you get something older and used with <100, or current cars get >200 and you pay the price for it.

A new Leaf is something like $30k, and used Leafs are something like $17k, so it's absolutely not worth replacing my reliable hybrid car at that price. If I could get a new car around $20k with ~150 mile range, or a used car (~5 years old) with 100-150 mile range for 10k, I'd probably buy it. But that just isn't a thing right now. So I'm waiting.