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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

@weirdwriter @ajsadauskas @lemmyreader

Yes, forum platforms too (incl #nodebb of course).

I do get the (very vague) impression discourse is focusing on integrating well with masto to a good extent and so might not integrate too well with the other Reddit/forum platforms. If true, that might be a good enough reason to start with another base. OTOH, it’s a familiar platform to many devs so adapting it for stackoverflow like use could go well right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

@ajsadauskas @lemmyreader

Yep! It seems a good Threadiverse ecosystem could be on its way with lemmy etc, nodebb and discourse. Hooking a stack overflow alternative into that could make a lot of sense of kick starting it.

Though at some point UI differences could prove problematic(?)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

@p03locke

Yep, yep and ... yep!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@Trainguyrom

Ha
AFAIU, two platforms other than mastodon (lemmy and discourse) have issues federating because at least one of them is trying federate well with mastodon (for obvious reasons). The mastodon quirk causing issues is, AFAIU, the way it kinda mangles articles and pages (long form formats in ActivityPub), which are appropriate for forums and link-aggregators like lemmy and discourse. So someone hints been done to work well with mastodon’s mangling, which hurts lemmy-discourse interop

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (7 children)

@Loukas @fediverse

Agreed (and said the same myself)!

As I've said it ... alternative social has run its course in this post-musk-twitter moment. Everyone's settled down where they ended up.

And yea, either more major disruption or some new killer features (rather than clones of big social) will be needed to shake things up. Neither seem particularly likely in the short term ... your EU-meta smackdown is probably the best bet??

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (9 children)

@Loukas @fediverse

Comparatively, it's definitely a lot more into shitposting vibes, for sure.

I think their biggest problem right now is they don't have good community self-organising features (nor masto, but the boost culture corrects for that IMO), so those who want more serious sub-cultures aren't getting much footing (and may never).

Feeds are interesting but not very fruitful IMO and hashtags are new, so it's a bit flat community-wise there, and many users are "wait & see" I suspect.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

@anderseknert @fediverse

Fair (kinda the simple explanation why I'm anti-threads-federation).

While I'm no BlueSky-stan, the idea/promise of the system is a hybrid, which I think is generally worthwhile (especially while things like twitter and threads *dominate*) but also interesting.

How hybridised it becomes (and can become) is the question though with *big* outstanding questions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)
 

People are actually on BlueSky

There's now a decent measurement of #bluesky user numbers (https://bskycharts.edavis.dev/edavis.dev/bskycharts.edavis.dev/bsky_users_total.html) ...

They've got about 1.6M MAUs ...
& 0.8M Weekly unique users & 0.340M Daily.

That's not nothing!

Roughly double mastodon and 60% more than the whole fediverse (by MAUs, see fedidb.org).

Bluesky is quite "international" with large Japanese and Brazilian popltns, and there's real attrition happening IMO.

Still, let the protocol wars begin I suppose?

@fediverse

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

@box464 @db0 @fediverse

I’d forgotten about them (firefish/Misskey plugins) actually (we probably saw each other over on firefish “back in the day”).

 

Plugins for fediverse platforms.

Where is this up to? Is anyone thinking along these lines?

I've seen @db0 espouse such (eg https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/8581651) (sorry for the tag if annoying).

I've certainly thought of it myself ... because it's a pretty obvious idea for an ecosystem aiming for richness and sustainability.

Seems a perfect fit for reusable moderation tooling too, rather than each new platforms having that trouble.

This is essentially #bluesky 's idea it seems.

@fediverse
#fediverse

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

@nickwitha_k

And yet when chatGPT and Dall-e come out everyone drops their shit ready to presume the great all-knowing AI godhead has arrived. Why? Well it suits them as consumers, and that was my point.

I don’t know modern music well enough but it’d be interesting to compare to the weird state music technology has gotten to with synthesisers and digital tooling having completely matured now to the point where a laptop can replace a studio. Anyone advertise “no digital” like Jack White did?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

@nickwitha_k balancing things for sure, that’s just craft. But where you lose me is that talking about how CGI is done, how good examples of it are done, and why … is just not mainstream.

Crashing a plane into a building? … everyone wants to talk about it. But no one ATM seems to want to know about all the awesome shit CGI is doing. Bad examples sure, they exist for all aspects of film. Instead people are lying about how much CGI they’re using, when getting it right could be celebrated.

 

The "No CGI" dynamic around films is odd and reveals, IMO, that mainstream anti-tech sentiment in capitalism only flies as a consumer's affectation.

I didn't know about this apart from the usual under-appreciation and under-paying of VFX staff.

But then the "No CGI is just invisible CGI" series (https://www.youtube.com/@TheMovieRabbitHole/videos) and this clip about the Barbie behind the scenes *hiding the bluescreen by filling it in* (https://youtu.be/fPNpFqXraKE?si=yYu569bY8d41DZ2f&t=509) ... reveals a profession is being smothered.

@moviesandtv

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@skullgiver

The point though is that not all platforms had the problem, which means platform diversity would have lessened the significance.

 

Mastodon CVE Report

Didn't expect the mastodon CVE report/account would kinda end up being about platform diversity on the fediverse (TLDR: only mastodon really had the problem, which was huge)

https://arcanican.is/excerpts/cve-2024-23832/discovery.htm

@fediverse

#CVE #mastodon #fediverse

 

The Fedipact statistics are interesting

7% of active users committed to #fedipact - https://fedidb.org/current-events/anti-meta-fedi-pact

* How representative of the user base is this, or are admins gatekeeping here? A large survey would be good to clear that up.

* EG, Mastodon, relative to its userbase, seems the most "Meta friendly" with only 57% of fedipact users (but ~80% all users)

* Fractal of niche-dom? Fedi ~1% of social media, fedi-pact ~ 10% of fedi. So anti-meta-fediverse ~0.1%?

@fediverse
@fediversenews

 

Decent Decentralisation

https://berjon.com/decent-imaginaries/

Good counter to the focus on protocols.

> a protocol needs to achieve two things: it needs to prevent the accumulation of power imbalances between parties … and it needs to make it easy for users to cooperate in building the the rules they want for how the protocol's operation affects them … the success of decentralisation and … of a democratic digital world **rides not only on liberation but also on organising**.

@fediverse

By @robin

 

Mildly notable social media moment for me watching a Dr Becky video on YT.

In listing her "socials" she's got #TikTok , #Instagram and #Threads (and of course #youtube ).

link below

Is this the new central axis of social media?

Which is funny cuz I've never really been to *any* of those. No accounts and only visited IG a few times because something else linked there for some information.

Also, I didn't really notice Threads was succeeding.

https://youtu.be/3NeKR7bqolY?si=SJWzXyhk_S5jNdml&t=53

@fediverse

 

Is decentralised federated social media over engineered?

Can't get this brain fart out of my head.

What would the simplest, FOSS, alternative look like and would it be worth it?

Quick thoughts:

* FOSS platforms intended to be big single servers, but dedicated to ...
* Shared/Single Sign On
* Easy cross posting
* Enabling and building universal Multi-platform clients.
* Unlike email, supporting small servers

No duplication/federation/protocol required, just software.

#fediverse
@fediverse

 

What the new tech creator-content platforms and economy miss

Adam Neely on "quitting #youtube " puts two ideas together (that I hadn't) and implicitly asks "what if the new platform/economy fails you"

Longevity and freedom from traditional gatekeepers. The content-creator economy fails on these promises.

Burn out is baked in and ignoring the traditional gate-keepers is at your own very serious risk.

The world is the same, tech is just milking us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RceZ8VS8PbQ

@workreform

 

Death of the Middle Class Musician

Interesting reflection by two older musicians (Beato and Tim Pierce) about how the music industry used to have a "middle class" that's been pushed out now by an industry that focuses more and more on profits.

They don't really go into the details of how the changes happened, with big-corp #capitalism being the elephant in the room ... but their observations, which include tech, paint a pretty clear picture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLGkU_r-g2g

@workreform

 

Dealing with a government welfare system for the first time in a while.

Last time there were still people you’d talk to who’d smooth over the process.

Now it’s all online and automated.

And holy fucking hellscape Batman.

They’ve just shipped the whole bureaucracy along with their own software bugs.

And as the welfare seeker you have to navigate all of the details and jargon (and bugs/broken links) without any assurance that anything is ok, hoping the money comes.

#welfare

@australia

 

Fediverse hot takes:

  1. The only true client is the browser.

  2. Microblogging be damned.

  3. it’s the instances/servers that are federated, not the users (ie us) … and damn that too.

@fediverse

#fediverse

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