maegul

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Is the new #zed editor mostly hype rn?

I can believe it’s good and cool ( built in graphics and collab seem to me like good ideas).

But as someone who happily stayed with sublime (with LSPs a likely game changer) …

takes like “it’s fast!”, “LSP!”, “it now has snippets!” … along with people telling me it has a plug-in system, but doesn’t (cf python/lua runtimes of sublime/nvim) give me massive hype vibes and honestly just feels very “2020s-tech”.

#programming

@programming

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@simpleguy @fediverse

Unfortunately it’s unlikely to come soon as mastodon is a while away from implementing groups and are doing it their own incompatible way.

This tag process works though and I’m happy the lemmy devs implemented it.

Spread the word.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

@simpleguy @fediverse

I don’t believe so. I’m pretty sure I’ve checked it, but I could be wrong.

It makes sense though as hashtags are a different mechanism from follows and boosts.

You could do a quick test with the test community and the test hashtag.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

@electricprism

Yea. The basic idea feels like something that's kinda been forgotten in the wake of big-social's long dominance and vanilla-ification of online activity.

I even once asked the dev of a popular mastodon app who was expressing interesting in making a lemmy app too ... "why not just add lemmy compatibility to the mastodon app".

Their response was that they couldn't see what that would look like or how it would work.

It's all just text messages ... I don't think this is hard!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

@aaaa

A useful lens I find is whether a social media system is good at creating, facilitating and hosting genuine communities.

Alt-social right now is struggling with this I think and, IMO, has plenty of room to grow in this regard.

The difficulty though is that it requires more features in our platforms, some likely non-trivial. That's a big ask for an open non-profit ecosystem.

An effective means of aggregating multiple parts into a unified view could alleviate this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@aaaa

Personally, I'm there with you I think. I only use default web-UIs on all fediverse platforms I've used, and advocate for that.

But should multi-protocol systems and multi-platform clients become normalised, I think this goes beyond "to app or not to app". What I'm talking about could likely just be a web-app.

The issue is more around aggregation and creating something "greater than the sum of its parts" out of open alt-social.

 

Is there any real or serious conversation or work around the idea of a feature-full social media browser?

Basically something like a web browser but for “all the social media” along with useful organisation features too.

For locked down big social APIs, this makes less sense nowadays, but for open alt-social systems, *it is likely the most valuable promise of such systems* that they can become like the web, reachable through an awesome all-in-one app.

@fediverse

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

@fediverse
Probably not original at all. But I suspect there's something to framing it around "improving the quality of internet discourse" through the emergent dynamics of a federation ... especially in comparison to monolithic big-social.

It also repositions the internet as a broader resource to be used effectively.

And instills independent and contentiously incompatible instances along with widely connected federation as desirable positives for social media and the internet in general.
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A thought on "moderation bubbles"

A plurality of contentiously incompatible but independent moderation "spaces" ... is the only way in which the internet is good at digesting substantial and contentious topics.

* conversations on the internet generally suck.
* On any contentious front, strong moderation can run the risk of "echo chambers".
* For those willing to survey multiple "bubbles", an interconnected plurality provides a de facto dialectics.

Thus federation for the win!

@fediverse

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (5 children)

@fediverse

A tricky part here is that the community still needs to be followed at least once on your instance for the content to come through. *I think*

So if a community isn't coming through, I'd recommend these steps:

* Search for the community and follow it like any other user.
* Add it to a specific/bespoke list, then remove that list from home (a setting available on each list). This removes "the firehose" from your home feed.
* Follow the corresponding tag as you would any other

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Following #lemmy communities from #mastodon has gotten much better

Version 19.4 introduced automatic hashtag-ing (see https://lemmy.ml/post/16585416)

Posts get federated with a hashtag matching the community name.

The important bit is that comments to posts *don't* get the tags.

Which means you can follow the corresponding tag on mastodon and get a feed only of posts.

EG: #asklemmy

If you're starting a community, giving it a unique enough name could help prevent overlap too.

@fediverse

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Doing some "cold-call" business/professional emailing recently, And I feel the specter of #AI

I can't see my emails seeming genuine or real or human.

Formal digital text seems even less human or trust worthy than it did in previously.

The urge to have a phone call is stronger than ever for me (as a millennial that *never* picks up).

For me, this is new, and I only noticed now and I'm a little disturbed at how AI silently altered my world view despite not really using it

@casualconversation

 

Something I've found disappointing in the "AI conversation" around me ...

... there hasn't been enough honest introspection about how this whole thing feels and likely will feel.

Like, there's something disturbing in AI's first "success" being "art" and "music".

There's something disturbing about how we were never going to be able to help ourselves & are compelled to make things like LLMs, but can still be frightened by its implications.

anger v hype leaves all that out

@casualconversation

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

@mick_collins @Subversivo @fediverse @fediversenews

I'm not familiar enough (or at all) with C#, but AFAICT, it could make an instance more stable, as firefish and misskey have struggled with handling a decent amount of users and C# could be a faster system for the server.

Also, a re-write sometimes is a good thing. And, developers have different preferences for languages, so having a C# project around enables C# devs to more easily contribute to the fedi.

 

Iceshrimp: A #csharp fediverse platform

Was just told (by @Subversivo ) about this: https://iceshrimp.dev/iceshrimp/iceshrimp.net

#Iceshrimp are rewriting the whole thing (a JS/Node #misskey / #firefish fork) in C# with Blazor for the frontend.

Cool to see. Should handle the performance issues that have plagued the *key forks and maybe provide a new general branch of fediverse platform.

What lang/stack isn't represented on the fediverse now? C++, Kotlin?

@fediverse
@fediversenews

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

@Zagorath @Teppichbrand

And to really get it you have to have been a vulnerable commuter (cyclist etc) in an encounter with a car where they've clearly just not seen you and will kill you if you're not constantly on the look out for such things.

Despite being well informed about such things I was still shocked my "first time" as I watched a car just turn into me like I wasn't there while the driver was looking elsewhere.

cars were already a problem. Weaponising them with tech hype is toxic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

@can

Lemmy federates pretty well with mastodon. From mastodon you can follow a community as you would any person/user.

There are two major problems though.

  1. everything in that community comes through as a flat firehose, including comments. There's structuring into posts with comments inside.
  2. Mastodon doesn't understand the type of object lemmy sends over ActivityPub, and so simply provides a title and a link to the original post.

Also, you can just follow lemmy users on mastodon.

 

UI differences are a big factor in the success/failure of decentralised federation of diverse platforms and content

And this seems a good example: bridged #mastodon posts onto #BlueSky which has a lower character limit than Mastodon.

So, just like #lemmy posts on mastodon, you don't get the full content of the post (which ends with an abrupt ellipsis here) and have to take a link to the original platform.

However powerful the underlying protocols, this isn't far from screenshots.

@fediverse

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

@technology @caseynewton

That search/SEO is broken seems to be part of the game plan here.

It's probably like Russia burning Moscow against Napoleon and a hell of a privilege Google enjoy with their monopoly.

I've seen people opt for chatGPT/AI precisely because it's clean, simple and spam free, because it isn't Google Search.

And as @caseynewton said ... the web is now in managed decline.

For those of us who like it, it's up to us to build what we need for ourselves. Big tech has moved on

 

Google's play on Search, Ads and AI feels obvious to me.

* They know search is broken.
* And that people use AI in part because it takes the ads and SEO crap out.
* IE, AI is now what Google was in 2000. A simple window onto the internet.
* Ads/SEO profits will fall with AI.
* But Google will then just insert shit into AI "answers" for money.
* Ads managed + up-to-date AI will be their new mote and golden goose.

@technology

See @caseynewton 's blog post: https://mastodon.social/@caseynewton/112442253435702607

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

@admin

Some, maybe many, hope for the decentralised model of the fediverse to “take back the internet”. Each time a commercial platform “enshitifies“, there are then calls for the fediverse to replace it with a federated alternative, in part to take advantage of the moment of user agitation.

But, IMO, resources and financial support are a touchy topic in the fediverse. If such has lead to a mismatch between ambition and opportunity, and, capability, that may be worth addressing.

 

The fediverse won’t succeed at putting up a #Stackoverflow substitute and that’s a problem?

Just an impression: All the pieces seem to be there. But what’s required is a team, with devs, PMs and coordinators, dedicated to making a particular place in the #fediverse .

That’s resources and decently sized financial and organisational demands, especially to get a critical mass of users.

Is the fediverse up to that challenge? If not, is it an issue worth addressing?

@fediverse

 

Nice demonstration of why mastodon's dominance is problematic

See the conversions here:
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/4628
and
https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/federating-the-content-of-posts-note-articles-and-character-limits/4087

AFAICT, mastodon's decisions, which are arguably problematic (on which see: https://lemmy.ml/post/14973403) are literally trickling down to other platforms and infecting how they federate with each other as they dance around mastodon's quirks in different ways.

It seems like masto is ruining "the standard" with its gravity.

#fediverse #mastodon
@fediverse

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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Reflecting on the firefish/calckey "moment"

which was about a year ago now, I can't help but suspect it was a small event with wider implications on the dominance of #mastodon in the #fediverse

I think it was the last chance to direct the twitter migration energy into discovering new/different fedi platforms.

And it was blown, with alt-social in a weird steady/waiting state that's smaller I suspect, than what many hoped for.

@fediverse
#firefish #calckey

cntd: https://hachyderm.io/@maegul/112358202238795371

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