The frumpy mom vibes here are hilarious for a kid crush
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Ahhhh, thanks.... i guess. Gruesome details yay.
I think we need to put the party, the platforms, the voters and our candidates into a realistic perspective and not reflect on Obama and bidens short comings. Progressive policy should be easy to sell because it addresses the needs of many. We have a messaging problem, you dont need to convince the dems to come left you need to convince the independents your policies are better.
I know, but i mean i hate to be the one to say it, but its not just fox news viewer. a large number of american voters are too biased for a POC woman. it needs to be addressed as well as what progressive platforms poll the best with the center. Ways to frame progressive goals that reach people etc. We can totally do it, but i dont see a clear path for AOC to a whitehouse victory in this climate. I'd support what ever we needed to get there, but i think its kinda ignorant to ignore. One thing hillary and kamala had in common besides being competent politicians, was being women.
Oh ya sorry... this is strictly a longing for vengeful entertainment. no other political goals in this thought.
Oh we need a better party for sure. No question there. Like i said ideals are extremely removed from the two party system. I love AoC I hope we give her a fair shot. She's worked hard her whole career and if the firebrand we need. Honest and relatable.
Knowing all that you understand my worries about AoC and the median voter. The DNC would need to get behind her now and start branding hard for 4 years. There's a lot that goes into getting a mainstream candidate elected, and there's not much we can do to get some of less centrists re-branded in the face of fox news. I'm not sure the DNC can provide her with the support she needs to win an election, nor will they even endorse her for a senate seat. I would tho.
Ragging on the candidate that won the election is just illogical to me. Ragging on the party that can't develop young talent is all fair game. Im here for it.
Just this huh not the…. points at dozens of examples of what dictators do
Just like trump in the white house, we should experience similar trajectories. Maniac in charge sorrounded by yes men.
Bro new fear unlocked. Burning TSLA on a ferry. Fuck me.
Sorry i guess my comment was directed at the person further up the line. I just don't understand how someone could look at the political landscape of 2012, and come to the conclusion that there was a better candidate out there, but we just didn't democracy hard enough!
In my mind, and in the face of republican authoritarianism and accelerationism. The perfect candidate to me is any warm body that prevents a republican take over. Now thats not really my political ideal, but thats a political reality. I totally get where you are coming from. I'm frusterated from this endless thread about hindsight rating Dem Presidents while the worst administration in the country is destroying us and our world order.
Also final point im trying to make is if someone has a 2028 candidate or a 2026 candidate whos a perfect progressive, im all ears.
the infighting and canabalizing really can't happen soon enough at this point. I want that whitehouse looking like Real World 3
She's my hopeful contender for the future. I would like to see more energetic and educated young people in there with a backbone and a will to fight.
I do not think the public understands progressive policy. This last election was a perfect example. You had Kamala promising down payments on housing, child tax credits and a whole bunch of progressive policy that addressed major voter issues. People voted for raising taxes on themselves instead of the rich. They don't even want progressivism. Like they proved it 4 months ago. They said it was gay and they wanted to trade social security for billionaire tax cuts. Anything but a black woman!