And what useful action does this information enable us to take? Next election, should we nominate better voters?
We have the voters we have. We need Democrats that can reach those voters. Blaming them wins us nothing.
Tinidril
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This is awesome. You just absolutely nailed the exact cause. Now all we have to do is what? Eliminate the voters? That sounds like the Republican plan to me.
Or maybe your plan is to convince the voters to do otherwise? Don't you think the politicians have a tiny little bit of responsibility in that area?
Neoliberalism leads to fascism via a well understood pattern that's currently repeating all around the globe. If you want better voters, then you need better Democrats.
You aren't looking for solutions, you're looking for someone to blame. Quit bitching and start working towards something better, or you're as useless as the Democratic establishment.
Oddly enough, Biden, Harris, and especially Walz are among the least rich politicians in DC. They are still way better off than middle class Americans though.
OK, let's blame Trump voters. Sounds good. Now what? Replace the voters?
Trump voters are a symptom of a cultural and economic situation created entirely by neoliberals. Blame the voters all you want, but I don't see how that's supposed to get us anywhere.
So, just curious,what's your plan to replace the voters? Are you just bitching, or does this lead somewhere? It seems to me that even if the voters are the problem, we need candidates capable of inspiring them to act differently.
Jumping the gun a bit on that post mortum analysis? Put up the data or shut the fuck up you wanker. This is 100% an establishment fuck up, and you are as cognitively twisted as any MAGA freak.
That's totally fair, but I think that serious issues with Second Thought's philosophy should be understood when viewing any of his material.
I also wasn't talking about Democrats failing to get things done. That's a small part of it, but it's mostly about who they are, how they message, and who they listen to. If the Democrats achieved everything they set out to do, I seriously doubt the situation with income inequality would be any better. In fact, Democratic initiatives have often made it significantly worse.
I think we all benefited from Bernie's runs in 2016 and 2020 resulting in a marked change to Democratic party philosophy, but it's not nearly the change the Democrats needed to be able to effectively message in the world we live in.
That's what 50+ years of neoliberalism does to a population. It's a world wide phenomenon.
The Democrats are responsible for 50+ years of neglecting working Americans that created the culture you're complaining about.
It's truly embarrassing as hell to have a Democratic party that can't absolutely crush a clown like Trump. The Democratic establishment isn't just out of touch, it's weak as fuck. Yes, this is on Kamala, but it's also on Obama, and the Clintons, and Pelosi, and Schumer, and the whole "anyone but Bernie" coalition. This is the consequence of running to the center instead of tackling wealth inequality head on.
Organize my community to do what? Refocus on what? Revolution?
Until the next election is cancelled, I plan on trying to win it. That means understanding how the Democrats failed.