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Former CIA Director Leon Panetta warned that Trump’s return to the White House could embolden Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, giving him a "blank check" in the Middle East and increasing the risk of war with Iran.

Panetta expressed concern that Trump would support Netanyahu's aggressive stance against Iran without restraint, potentially worsening regional instability.

Panetta also predicted Trump might allow Russia to retain parts of Ukraine if he returns to office, though he doubted Trump’s negotiation skills.

He criticized Trump’s approach to foreign policy, suggesting Trump would be inclined to "capitulate" to authoritarian leaders, which may not sit well with some Republicans.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 minutes ago

Guess were all in on genocides rather than pretending were not enabling it and hoping it sorts itself out, sorry.

I can't convince ~74,000,000 morons to change their mind. ¯\(ツ)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago

Whew! Good thing the moral purity brigade shunned Kamala Harris.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I heard the "but there won't be any of these wars once Trump is back" argument several times.

I would usually revel in watching the walls come down around someone's stupid opinions, but in this case, we as a country have to suffer for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 47 minutes ago

"But Trump will stop ~~me having to hear about~~ all these wars."

Fixed for you. I heard the same from my mom - that it was a REAL SHAME Biden wasn't trying to force Russia and Ukraine to peace.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

Really shows how stupid and gullible the American electorate is. War is a classic “Wag the Dog” tactic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I would hedge my bets for now. Alternative scenario: The Saudis throw another party for Trump, make some business deals in exchange for reigning in Israel. The House of Al Saud of course doesn't care about Palestinians but their people do and a party and some business is a low price to pay to be celebrated by your subjects.

When it comes to Russia, Trump may realise that Putin way overplayed his hand, but that's balanced by animosity towards Zelensky. OTOH, I mean, business deals. Don't underestimate Ukraine when it comes to being smooth operators. They can sell NASA/SpaceX rocket engines made from Russian war reparations titanium.

Thing is: Trump is highly neurotic and thus, while not necessarily predictable, highly manipulatable if you know what you're doing. Only have to blow the right smoke up his ass.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Trump voters: "Trump is the most peaceful president ever. We need to bring the defence spending to Ukraine home. America first".

Trump is elected and inevitably drags the US into yet another war in in the Middle East

Trump voters: Pikachu face

Nah. Just kidding about that last part. It was all just empty rhetoric to justify the grift and looting all the way down as the country burns to the ground in the background.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Don't forget that if we pull funding from Ukraine, the proxy war with Russia will potentially morph into the most peaceful war between Russia and our allies.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Trump is very isolationist. I'd be quite surprised if he committed to any conflict directly. Funding Israel to fight for him however...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I find it odd when someone says Trump is this or Trump is that as if he's consistent on anything. His absurd narcissism is the only consistent thing about him. You can bet your ass he would drag us into a war if it would stroke his ego in some way.

That is what makes him so uniquely dangerous. He has no ideology to speak of. His focus shifts back and forth so often that trying to predict exactly what he's going to do is impossible. You can say with certainty that he won't be motivated by any sort of desire for the public good but that's about as specific as you can get until he starts doing something.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

Seriously, it's amazing that more people don't understand that Trump does only what Trump thinks will benefit Trump, even if it's just benefiting the ego.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Take your bow single-issue voters and protest voters. We tried to warn you.

You did this.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

Yeah but GeNoCIdE JoE, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

No no guys, Harris was the one that supports the Palestinian genocide, not Trump!

Fucking idiot tankies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Bud, they both support it. The difference is that Republicans don't pretend to care about stuff like this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 48 minutes ago (1 children)

No, the difference is the extent of which they will enable genocide. And I'm not just taking about Gaza.

It's a massive fucking difference.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 minutes ago

What limits are being imposed on them currently? They're already flattening Gaza, attacking UN outposts, and invading other countries

[–] [email protected] 154 points 7 hours ago (39 children)

Congratulations, idealists. You definitely stopped the genocide by refusing to vote for Harris and urging others to do likewise. A+ job.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Oh he'll help end the genocide alright. You can't genocide a people that's already wiped off the planet.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 hours ago (6 children)

ukraine is gonna get 'helped' similarly. putin will have a free pass once the u.s. aid stops. i don't think the other nato countries or the e.u. can cover that, especially long-term.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

"They" weren't persons holding "real" opinions, I'm afraid. Just as the russians calling for "russophobia" 2 months prior to the special genocidal operation

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I truly cannot grasp how uninformed one has to be to claim to be for Palestinians but think helping Trump's odds was strategically better. Such profound ignorance is on par with maga, themselves.

On another note I want absolutely nothing to do with Mehdi Hasan. I supported him for quite some time but he got tunnel vision to such a degree he ended up thinking completely irrationally and contributing to the problem. He's venturing into Jill Stein territory for me.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

This is exactly what I was saying months ago. And it's absolutely going to happen now. The entire region is going to plunge into chaotic war, and Putin couldn't be happier.

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