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Former CIA Director Leon Panetta warned that Trump’s return to the White House could embolden Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, giving him a "blank check" in the Middle East and increasing the risk of war with Iran.

Panetta expressed concern that Trump would support Netanyahu's aggressive stance against Iran without restraint, potentially worsening regional instability.

Panetta also predicted Trump might allow Russia to retain parts of Ukraine if he returns to office, though he doubted Trump’s negotiation skills.

He criticized Trump’s approach to foreign policy, suggesting Trump would be inclined to "capitulate" to authoritarian leaders, which may not sit well with some Republicans.

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[–] [email protected] 221 points 1 month ago (73 children)

Congratulations, idealists. You definitely stopped the genocide by refusing to vote for Harris and urging others to do likewise. A+ job.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh he'll help end the genocide alright. You can't genocide a people that's already wiped off the planet.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago (4 children)

ukraine is gonna get 'helped' similarly. putin will have a free pass once the u.s. aid stops. i don't think the other nato countries or the e.u. can cover that, especially long-term.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hope as soon as US aid stops, they launch everything they have at major Russian cities.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

right? they're holding back for conditional western aid. as soon as the aid ends those conditions mean nothing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why would this be different from right now? If they could feasibly end the war they way, they absolutely would, and id absolutely condone it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because as far as I know Ukrain hasn't been committing war crimes with western supplied arms.

I've always said they could ignore all conditions by saying there's Hamas tunnels under the Kremlin.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I'm pretty sure it's the most documented war of all time by now, we'd know. The Israeli war is much younger and it was readily apparent when the war crimes started. I'm pretty sure that's why a lot of countries like to go dark from the internet when they kick up their bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I think the EU will change. If Ukraine falls, territory grabs from Poland, Finland and Hungary are next. Those are actually EU constituents.

Hungary will not leave the EU btw. Orbán's days are numbered, what with the Tisza overflowing.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

I truly cannot grasp how uninformed one has to be to claim to be for Palestinians but think helping Trump's odds was strategically better. Such profound ignorance is on par with maga, themselves.

On another note I want absolutely nothing to do with Mehdi Hasan. I supported him for quite some time but he got tunnel vision to such a degree he ended up thinking completely irrationally and contributing to the problem. He's venturing into Jill Stein territory for me.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"They" weren't persons holding "real" opinions, I'm afraid. Just as the russians calling for "russophobia" 2 months prior to the special genocidal operation

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I totally understand that sentiment, being myself someone who voted for Harris as the better candidate, but I think the results show it wasn't abstaining anti-genocide voters who caused her shortfall. Millions of people who voted blue in 2020 didn't vote or in many cases actually voted red on Tuesday, way more than the few pro-Palestine abstainers likely amount to. And I doubt many ppl who care about Palestine would've switched and voted for Trump.

As much as I'd love a simple, singular group to blame for Tuesday's horrible result, it's way too early and multifaceted of an issue to do so imo. Depressingly, I think it's moreso just uninformed voters who thought that since inflation wasn't as bad from 2016-2019 that Trump would be better for consumer prices, and they didn't really think about it any harder than that.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You misunderstand. I'm blaming everyone who didn't vote for whatever reason. It was Israel for a large number of them and this story involves that, so I am pointing the finger at them in this case.

But I don't care why someone didn't vote. They chose to accept the possibility that they would be helping a fascist, genocidal dictator get into office by doing nothing to oppose him. Whatever reason they had was a bad one.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Oh gotcha yep totally agree

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