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[–] [email protected] 82 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Hey, here's some random shit that isn't related to your search at all, but it has a word slightly similar to a word in your search! BUY IT!!!

[–] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"I know the word you typed is a real word, but I searched for something else anyways because that's what more people do"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

^Ad^ Search Results

[–] [email protected] 59 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I hate that search engine degradation is what’s lead me to use AI more. Instead of searching past pages full of 8 ads for a waffle recipe, I ask Copilot or something: “Give me a basic waffle recipe”.

So much computation to go back to what the web used to be great at.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I knew Google started ignoring double quotes for required text years ago, but I found out yesterday that it doesn't even think "site:xyz.com" needs to be followed.

I was researching something and saw some Reddit posts. Clicked below it to view results from Reddit and a third of them were other websites.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Google has always respected my double quote and site: searches. Please share a screenshot of it borken, I looked online and don’t see examples. If you have the time for a silly little thing :)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

They ignore any and all of their operators if there is more money to be made by doing so.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

I know Lemmy doesn't like it, but Kagi is really great

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy doesn't like it for a reason.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Im a massive proponent of FOSS, But I have not heard a single sustainable FOSS model for maintaining free search engines. It just takes so much capital to operate.

I think a paid model is much better than a privacy disrespecting / ad driven one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

if its individually paid, you don't have privacy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

It is if they dont store search queries, which they claim they dont. I have no reason to distrust them.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Lemmy just likes shitting on popular things to feel superior

You keep on Kagi'ing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Lemmy loves Kagi. At least this Lemming does.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Astroturfing bad

Good search good

The former is unconfirmed to be sure

I’m liking $0 SearXNG: lots of instances if you don’t host your own (for max privacy I think)

Germany/Spain hosted instance with all the checkmarks (Vanilla, IPv6, 100% uptime): https://searxng.site

If you fancy paying for a decent cause, don’t see a problem with the paid option sometimes suspiciously mentioned on Lemmy. Free trialing it saw a pleasant experience.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Responding to the human who typed:

I know Lemmy doesn't like it

Explaining many Lemmings seem to like it, and attempting to explain why some may bristle at its mention

That’s all :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You said it was astroturfing, implying I was astroturfing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, meant it as a reply to each segment of your sentence, to clarify what I think we like and don’t like:

Lemmy doesn’t like [astroturfing], but [Lemmy likes] great [search]

I haven’t seen anybody say Kagi’s search itself is bad! Oh, I should have mentioned some don’t like the idea of paid search period. That’s another complaint.

Overall positive impressions from many users here, is what I see. “Lemmy doesn’t like Kagi” is somewhat of a mischaracterization I think.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Totally fair, sorry for the misunderstanding

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Stop being reasonable and fight more for our amusement!

JK, good on you guys for being civil.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I friggin love this site

Hope you have a nice day & weekend ‘round the corner

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I just tell AI to google stuff for me and link me to the best results...let it wade through the ads and spam.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Kagi has a really neat feature that if you phrase your search in the form of a question and add a question mark to the end of it, it'll summarize all of the top results and give footnotes to the pages that it evaluated. It saves me tons of time!

[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This post article goes REALLY into why. I am in no way a techie nor do I really care too much what goes on in the tech sector. I will never build a PC. Regardless, that article is extremely well written and worth the time despite the length.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Cannot upvote this enough. I subscribed to this guy's newsletter because of this article; it's honestly excellent.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What guy? Link above is broken :(

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This was the original story. IDK why it was a link to a blahaj post about it.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

yeah that's why I switched engines.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

You:

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Google's response:

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I have to know if the bottom is a real cake or if it's photoshopped. I hope it's real.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Probably children's clay

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Just google in general really

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

If I search for something specific I now usually ask chatgpt and describe what I'm looking for. The results are often (not always) far better.

I don't want to click through 50 pages of unrelated shit anymore.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Coming out of my cage and I'm doing just fine

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Honestly this made my day!

I want that cake.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Surprised nobody here has mentioned Kagi yet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Surprised SearXNG is underrated. Basically what Kagi does but open source and self hosteable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Searx is great, but Kagi has a completely different data source set than Searx. Searx is basically just an aggregator for various search engines.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.html

I don't see how it is different than an aggregator.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Kagi kicks ass! There, are you happy? I really do feel that way though. I'm very pleased with my decision to switch.

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