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It is a scenario playing out nationwide. From Oregon to Pennsylvania, hundreds of communities have in recent years either stopped adding fluoride to their water supplies or voted to prevent its addition. Supporters of such bans argue that people should be given the freedom of choice. The broad availability of over-the-counter dental products containing the mineral makes it no longer necessary to add to public water supplies, they say. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says that while store-bought products reduce tooth decay, the greatest protection comes when they are used in combination with water fluoridation.

The outcome of an ongoing federal case in California could force the Environmental Protection Agency to create a rule regulating or banning the use of fluoride in drinking water nationwide. In the meantime, the trend is raising alarm bells for public health researchers who worry that, much like vaccines, fluoride may have become a victim of its own success.

The CDC maintains that community water fluoridation is not only safe and effective but also yields significant cost savings in dental treatment. Public health officials say removing fluoride could be particularly harmful to low-income families — for whom drinking water may be the only source of preventive dental care.

“If you have to go out and get care on your own, it’s a whole different ballgame,” said Myron Allukian Jr., a dentist and past president of the American Public Health Association. Millions of people have lived with fluoridated water for years, “and we’ve had no major health problems,” he said. “It’s much easier to prevent a disease than to treat it.”

According to the anti-fluoride group Fluoride Action Network, since 2010, over 240 communities around the world have removed fluoride from their drinking water or decided not to add it.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Just another pest boil of the lack of scientific education in the US. Anti-Vaxx, Anti-Flouride, Anti-Science in general. Do you guys want to go back to the age of pilgrim fathers, or what?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Americans won the battle to bring back measles

Now they’re fighting to bring back tooth decay

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

Guys doubling fisting 64oz Big Gulps won that war ages ago

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We need to stop letting the village idiots make policy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We need to stop letting the conservatives make policy.

FTFY

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

That would require a large community effort to resist occupation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Funnily enough, the idiots do have a grain a truth here, that grain just happens to be an example of the internet's favorite, Dunning-Kruger.

Excess flouride does have profound negative effects on intelligence. Several hundreds times the levels you get positive effects for tooth health from, and thus well beyond the scope of flouridation programs. There are also other notable side effects from flouride toxicity, so it'd be quite noticable.

There are even several regions of America and China where they need deflouridation treatments for ground water, but the conspiracy types never seem to mention those.

They also don't seem to note that flouride toxicity, like lead toxicity, leads to both decreased intelligence and increased aggression.

How making the working class angry and dumb makes them easier for the owner class to control and profit from never seems to come up.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How making the working class angry and dumb makes them easier for the owner class to control and profit from never seems to come up.

Ask the folks at the Jan 6th riot. Trump played them all like fiddles.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but I don't think anyone is accusing Trump of being behind a flouridation conspiracy. It demonstrates rather that angry morons are rather easy to point at the government, which is why the government probably doesn't want a bunch of angry morons to rule.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

I don’t think anyone is accusing Trump of being behind a flouridation conspiracy.

Sure. I'm simply noting that whipping people up into a frenzy or panic is an age old technique for controlling large populations.

It demonstrates rather that angry morons are rather easy to point at the government

Or at this or that ethnic group or religious sect or ideological cohort, sure. You don't even have to be particularly conservative for this technique to work. Liberals fall for the Immigrant Caravan Invasion and Crime Wave panic stories and Pending Federal Bankruptcy and Communist Invasion stories as easily as any moderate Republican.

the government probably doesn’t want a bunch of angry morons to rule

They do, if they want to export that violence overseas or inflict it on minority groups and women, as a means of social control.

And it isn't as though state officials are even all that rational. Certainly, Joe Biden's had no problem perpetuating a genocide overseas, despite his policy whipping up a bonfire of opposition at home and in neighboring regions. Neither do Vladimir Putin or MBS or Narendra Modi seem shy about stoking the fires of bigotry in their own countries, as a means of mobilizing large groups of people into parades of support for their rule.

Angry morons are a great source of cheap activist labor, whether you're storming the capital on Jan 6th or rallying Hindu nationalists to tear down a 600-year-old mosque in Delhi.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This sounds like that Simpsons episode where the school board votes down the "free recharging of fire extinguishers". They aren't even saying that their might be problems with floride, they just want choice for the option of choices sake. What is next, freedom to push your children into traffic?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

they just want choice for the option of choices sake.

This is a common talking point for people who can’t otherwise justify their position. It’s the “because I said so” of arguing. You see it a lot with far right talking points, where they’ll frame it as freedom of choice, when it’s really just an excuse to pander to conspiracy theorists, the extremely religious, racists, homophobes, etc…

“The civil war wasn’t about slavery; it was about states’ rights.”

“If I want to refuse service to a gay couple, that should be my choice.”

“If I want to refuse service to a mixed race couple, that should be my choice.”

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

For some reason, they never came around on the Pro-Choice movement, though

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If I want to prevent your abortion, that should be my choice. "My" being the operative word, they're incredibly selfish. (Oh, and should the situation arise, "My abortion is the only justified abortion.")

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

“My abortion is the only justified abortion.”

Practically a one-to-one correlation between pro-life politicians and pregnant sex workers forced to get abortions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Not this shit again. This pseudo-scientific nonsense has been debunked numerous times already. You would think that this would be a dead conspiracy theory but here we are debating this once more. This is what happens when you have an scientifically illiterate population.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

This is what happens when you have an scientifically illiterate population.

It's the old Alex Jones "turning the frogs gay" line. Just enough science to hurt yourself with.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Ban the fluoride and give universal dental care like Canada is planning.

A pipe dream. The dummies will likely just ban the fluoride with no other plan or solution.

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