Other roms won't fix it, Google removed the back end support for the old buttons. Calyx and graphene lost them not too long ago. Drives me mad. I used to be able to toggle bt in my pocket.
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Crawled out from under my rock and need the context. Running LOS 21 on my pixel 5 and still have toggle functionality with the March 18 update.
Edit: got the April 15 update yesterday and now I too, have no quick toggle function. Enshittification continues apace...
Drives me mad, two clicks to do what one did before, why?!
Same with wifi and I fuckin hate it. I want my 6 individual buttons that fit on one row back.
Yea, what the fuck with wifi also?
"Oh we better make sure that the user only has the more cumbersome option to rapidly switch between networks but not enable and disable that feature conveniently"
There's no way anybody is toggling through multiple Wi-Fi networks more than there are people turning their Wi-Fi on and off.
Idiotic changes.
Great big wide toggles... Totally opposite of the point of having those buttons there
I also hate how they moved the settings button to the bottom...gotta swipe down twice to get to it. That one is less annoying because I'm not going there every day. But I toggle Wi-Fi every day...
This is definitely a case of overloading a feature when they could just make multiple features.
I personally love the ability to easily switch the active Bluetooth device (so I love the new behaviour), but not everyone has this need.
They should just have added multiple quick settings tiles so we can all be happy.
Right. Even if they wanted to change the behavior for everyone, this feature should have included another button that has the old behavior. More evidence that Google has long jumped the shark.
Im really just waiting on a viable Linux phone with waydroid. All their new changes are changes for change sake if you ask me.
Have you looked into the murena fairphone yet?
I already run Calyx so that part is fine enough but the fairphone stupidly removed their headphone jack so that's why it's not on my list for a replacement anytime soon.
Thank you for the suggestion though.
I'm on the opposite side here, I haven't used wired headphones in a decade.
Is it the increased fidelity of wired headphones that has you for jack advocacy?
I could plug into any headphones or stereo without a dongle, they never have to be charged, and I'm never forced to choose whether to listen to music or charge the phone itself.
BT is fine. But there's zero good reason to omit the jack. All the companies just followed apples lead so they could make money on BT headphones. That's it.
You don't need a dongle to use bt headphones, do you?
Charging my headphones once every couple of days for 30 minutes vs the inconvenience of constantly dealing with a physical cord(tangles, caught on anything, putting it away, the phone port/headphone cord/jack fraying or breaking) is a no-contest bt win for me. Listening is so much more convenient for me without the wire.
That said, I'm almost always listening to something on the go, so maybe our use cases are different.
"I'm never forced to choose whether to listen to music or charge the phone itself." - You can't use bt headphones while charging your phone?
I would omit the port for extra space to organize what I would consider more critical components. Waterproofing is probably a consideration.
Interesting to hear from the other side, thanks
I put the wire down my shirt or coat. Doesn't get in the way at all.
Never have to charge- that is so important to me because I definitely don't want anything else to have to charge. I hate smartwatches for the same reason (and because I don't like wearing watches.)
And lastly, port doesn't have to be omitted. Xiamoi or whoever had a razor thin phone with a jack- no issues with space. Also, companies had IP68 or whatever ratings with headphone jacks before.
You're not gonna convince us. We know what we like and we know there is zero reason that the jack can't be put in. It wouldn't preclude people like yourself from using BT all the same but would afford us a simple time-worn and battle tested way of listening to music the way we like that clearly has upsides to only having BT available.
Time-worn and battle tested? Jacks and ports break constantly, wires fray constantly.
You say it's because you like the wires themselves. That's fine. I like using hand tools, but I don't pretend that they are more convenient than power tools.
You pretending that pulling constantly degrading wires and components in and out of your clothes multiple times a day is more convenient than a single plug once every couple of days is absurd and obviously incorrect.
Oh OK. Another person who has it all figured out. Sorry i wasted my time. Have a good day.
You don't have to apologize for wasting your time, just make valid arguments.
You like wires on principal because they're cool? That's great and perfectly fair.
If you want to assert that wires are somehow more convenient than BT, you'll have to show your work.
I prefer the new behaviour for Bluetooth, just for some contrast. Should be a setting though
That's good to hear. I can understand why they might make this an option, but to force me to click three times instead of once is bizarre.
The toggle is in a different part of the screen, So I've tried switching the tile over to where the title shows up after I select Bluetooth, but making a "quick tile" slower and more cumbersome is a bizarre design choice.
Why do you like it?
Why do you like it?
Not them but pretty simple: I swap devices more often than I turn it on/off these days
I have a smartwatch so it's on most of the time. A pair of mobile Bluetooth headphones and a Bluetooth speaker at home, so swapping > on/off for me
I don't configure my smart watch (Garmin tracker) for notification, text, call access, as I prefer not to send those private communications to a third (and fourth, and fifth...) party. Also, my watch battery last three extra days if I disable Bluetooth at all tines except sync.
So for me, quick toggle was what I enjoyed.
Fuck Google... More like Microsoft every day.