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We've lost. Truth must be told. The inability to admit it encapsulates everything you need to know about Israel's individual and mass psychology. There's a clear, sharp, predictable reality that we should begin to fathom, to process, to understand and to draw conclusions from for the future. It's no fun to admit that we've lost, so we lie to ourselves.

We constantly tell ourselves about an imaginary deadline – April, May, September 1 – and if Hezbollah keeps it up until then, we'll give it a thorough shellacking. The deadline keeps being pushed back. The border region remains empty. The deceit continues. There now seems to be a high probability that for years, anyone driving along the border will be a target. Tel Hai will fall again.

Rafah is the newest bluff that the mouthpieces are plying to fool us and make us think that victory is just moments away. By the time they enter Rafah, the actual event will have lost its significance. There may be an incursion, perhaps a tiny one, sometime – say in May. After that, they'll peddle the next lie, that all we have to do is ________ (fill in the blank), and victory will be on its way. The reality is that the war's aims will not be achieved. Hamas will not be eradicated. The hostages will not be returned through military pressure. Security will not be reestablished.

The more the mouthpieces shout that "we're winning," the clearer it is that we're losing. Lying is their craft. We need to get used to that. Life is less secure than before October 7. The beating we took will sting for years to come. The international ostracism won't go away. And, of course, the dead won't be coming back. Nor will many of the hostages.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The more the mouthpieces shout that "we're winning," the clearer it is that we're losing. Lying is their craft. We need to get used to that. Life is less secure than before October 7. The beating we took will sting for years to come. The international ostracism won't go away. And, of course, the dead won't be coming back. Nor will many of the hostages.

We have to make it clearer than ever that this rightwing fantasy of subjugation of a population to genocidal conditions doesn't fulfill any aims to stop terrorism whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is that the current goal? To stop terrorism?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

No, the goal is to ethnically cleanse Palestine. Terrorism is just the ruse.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Israel still exists, and is still being supported and recognized by most countries, plus the UN. They are still building settlements, ethnically cleansing thousands in Gaza, and the PA puppet authority is the only Palestine Israel will even acknowledge. If that is what "defeat" looks like then the word is rendered meaningless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. This article is an attempt to convince people that all is lost unless Israel goes all in and takes over Palestine. The war for hearts and minds rages on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Hmm. Interesting take. I'll accept it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You might want to fix the misspelling in "ethnically"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Kosher Killing.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Usually, defeat in an invasion doesn't instantly cause nations to fall

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

All of that is true. But Hamas still exists as well.

Aside from committing Genocide and destroying all of Gaza if they don't defeat Hamas they will have technically lost.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Between massive protests and abysmal polls Netanyahu knows he’s not long for his position.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago

Those have been there for more than half a year. The only thing keeping Netanyahu alive is Biden unconditionally supporting his every war crime.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

None of Netanyahu's likely replacements are against the war.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Elections tend to be reactionary. Let’s hope you’re wrong.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Firstly: its Haaretz, so pretty biased as a source. But secondly: lol lmao.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I mean yeah, but that's the point. Even an israeli source is admitting the defeat.

The only thing "israel" has succeeded in doing is genocide.