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[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Just delaying the inevitable given netflix kills shows after the 2nd season

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not always. Sometimes they do it after the first season.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

only if there are gay people involved and being happy

also i'm still angry and bitter about gypsy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

And Lockwood

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's at least one more season than Paramount gave us.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Technically, they’re the ones giving us the second season (as in they’re still paying for production), but they’re not the ones streaming it.

I still don’t get why they’re doing this.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Paramount+, the streamer, cancelled it.

CBS Studios, the producer, kept it going and found a new buyer.

Two separate entities, even though they're both subsidiaries of the same parent company.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Apparently it’s a tax write off.

It’s risky though because a) Star Trek is no longer all in one place b) if it’s a hit then Netflix benefit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I don’t think Netflix actually cancels shows after two seasons any more often than other networks do.

Somehow people got it into their heads that Netflix is far more cancel-happy than its competitors, but if you look at the numbers, traditional TV networks have had like a 50% cancellation rate for decades.

Even TOS was cancelled after two seasons!

If Netflix is more prone to cancelling shows at all, which I’m not convinced is even true, it can’t be by an enormous margin.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Actually there’s both metric evidence and statements by senior Netflix executives that a show has to do well in the first few weeks to be renewed.

They’re also very committed to their drop it all at once, or at most in 2 parts per season.

So it creates an environment where shows are rarely renewed unless they are top of the streaming charts.

They may have a different decision criteria for kid and family shows though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There was an article a few weeks ago about how Netflix only has about a 15% cancellation rate. Unfortunately there was no deep dive into the data, so the figures are suspect. A few factors that weren't considered:

  • A very significant percentage of Netflix programming is reality TV and cheap junk. This doesn't get cancelled because well, it's cheap.
  • Many series don't get cancelled, they just aren't renewed. If Netflix tells the producers this is the last season, they're gonna rush the storyline to some kinda ending regardless of whether it was originally supposed to stretch several more seasons.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I would rather a rushed ending than to be left hanging (unless they’re going to do a movie or something)

Maybe the last few years are better, but through the late 2010s Netflix very much looked at the per episode drop off rate for viewers and used that to determine if a show would continue to pull in viewers and get renewed. They were quite aggressive and then when other streaming services started coming into play they aggressively tried cutting costs off dead shows and burned a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong but if anyone kills the show, wouldn't it be Paramount? Netflix is just picking it up to stream on their service.

I know people have their issues with Netflix but I'm just relieved it's not Peacock or some other service no one cares about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Netflix is just picking it up to stream on their service.

Just as a TV network "cancels" a series by deciding not to order/air it, Netflix could do the same. Theoretically.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Sadly they gave Manifest a 3rd and 4th season.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying it's already cancelled again.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

new record incoming, removed from the service before even being added.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (3 children)

i like prodigy but i hate netflix :(

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

She’s still dead ……. :(

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

hello guybrush threepwood you sure are mighty

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

How appropriate. You fight like a cow!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

At least you'll be able to find it on the high seas now, rather than it rotting on some hard drive in the back of a cupboard.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Hi everyone! Netflix by far is the best home for Prodigy in the current streaming landscape.

They have the largest media share and Star Trek has historically done exceptionally well on their service — this opens the door for more seasons of our show.

Animated shows like “The Dragon Prince” have run up to seven seasons on Netflix.

“Longmire” was saved from cancellation and was renewed for an additional five seasons by Netflix. So was “Lucifer,” and many others.

Feel free to celebrate!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I saw this article first, but startrek.com has an announcement with a couple of brief quotes:

“Thank you to our incredible Star Trek: Prodigy fans, who championed not just a show, but a community that’s always been connected by the belief that we build a better future together,” said executive producer Alex Kurtzman and co-showrunners Dan and Kevin Hageman. “We set out to inspire you, but you inspired us. The team is still hard at work on the second season, and we can’t wait to share it with the amazing fans around the world.”

“I've always held that the Star Trek fan base is among the strongest and most intelligent in the world. They have shown their collective passion, and we’re happy to be able to celebrate Prodigy once again,” said Kate Mulgrew, voice of Admiral Janeway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Kate Mulgrew sure knows how to please her fans.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Excluded from the deal are Canada, where Prodigy is carried by CTV.ca and the CTV App, and in SkyShowtime’s European territories: the Nordics, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain and Central and Eastern Europe.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

This Canadian currently pays for:

  • Premium/4k/ Expensive Netflix
  • Amazon Prime
  • Disney+
  • Paramount+
  • YouTube Premium
  • Crave (going away at Christmas)
  • Curiosity Stream
  • CBC Gem
  • Spotify

The CTV App can fuck itself. I'll be pirating the show and I'm not even ashamed.-

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Jeeze, I wasn't even aware that Gem had a paid tier...

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

I was actually linking to it as you sent this!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Glad it got picked up. I thought it would be Amazon Prime most likely to get it as they'd already invested in Picard. But I'm fine with Netflix. I'm due to get back round to Netflix after Christmas on my subscription rotation plan so hopefully I can binge watch both seasons of Prodigy by then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I was hoping for Prime, but their kids offering is pretty anemic compared to Netflix. With the cost of Netflix it only gets a few months a year in our household too

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is a good change. I think we could be in a much better place if companies that owned both production and streaming were more open about licensing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

The pendulum seems to be swinging back toward that model, at least in some cases.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum it is then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't let friends use streaming TV subscriptions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yar 🏴‍☠️

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

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