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[–] [email protected] 357 points 1 year ago (78 children)

"Israel has a right to self-defence, but it has to be done within international law ... cutting water, cutting electricity, cutting food to a mass of civilian people is against international law," said EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell on Tuesday (10 October).

He repeated the view more than once in his press briefing. "The Palestinian people are also suffering," he added.

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. This cycle of violence and repression needs to stop.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago (20 children)

It's not an eye for an eye though. Israeli atrocities over the decades dwarf what has been inflicted upon them by Palestine and Hamas.

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[–] [email protected] 207 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The UN and EU consider lots of things Israel does illegal. We just don't do anything about it and they don't care.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (28 children)

This is true. But it is also because there isn't a much better alternative.

The Palestinians don't have a Nelson Mandela, MLK or Mahatma Gandhi kind of person that the western world can rally around and support.

Like, I'm sitting here at home in Europe, thoroughly disapproving of Israel, while being also fully disgusted by what Hamas did.

And I understand why Palestinians fight. I can understand that they can't be fully pacifist and that they don't have the capability to wage a normal war, so they result to asymmetric warfare.

But if they had just cleanly killed or kidnapped the adults and spared the children, that would have been the minimum to not fully alienate a lot of people who are sympathetic to their cause.

I guess Yasser Arafat was the best they had and it only went downhill after that.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

The problem I have with the "both sides" argument is while I agree we should not approve of Hamas' actions, Israel routinely murders civilians without consequence. We tut and tsk but we still send them basically unlimited aid and approval.

Yes both sides behave badly but one side does so with our explicit support.

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[–] [email protected] 127 points 1 year ago (49 children)

"And in response we will send 100 billion in lethal aid directly to Israel."

Israelis are doing a genocide in Gaza right now and the whole western world will celebrate it at worst and tut about it at best. Disgusting

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 1 year ago (46 children)

Obviously illegal. Collective punishment is a war crime and makes Israel a monster. Imagine if there was a murderer in your building and the feds blew the entire building up.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel is willingly lead by a monster.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where are the sanctions then?

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Sanctions are for non-whites.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 year ago

Well, no shit. And nothing will be done about it.

Not directed at OP

[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (31 children)

Israel's actions are a direct consequence of what Hamas did," Borrell's spokesman had said in Brussels earlier the same day.

Uhh, I think you meant to say "Hamas' actions are a direct consequence of what Israel has been doing to Gaza"

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You really wouldn't gather this by looking at the media churn. It's pro Israel to with it's foot to the floor. If you dare voice distention, you are labeled to be an anti Semite. This successful tactic has been a go to for years. For Israel to know true peace, they need to dump its current leadership. I won't see this happen in my lifetime.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago

Someone should probably do something about that huh

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago

Gaza doesn’t have any oil so nobody will help.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (24 children)

The EU may support Israel, but right now they're calling them out for this bullshit and I'm applauding them for that. Hurting innocent civilians is never a good idea no matter which side of the conflict does it.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (27 children)

Why are they not sending wepons to Palestinians?

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Hasn't this always been the case?

Israel has not been a shining example of virtue over the years. I'm not excusing the disgusting actions by the other side, where they are proved true, as some of the pictures have already been discounted, but this would only make Israel come down harder.

I don't the have an answer, but what ever us happening now is certainly not it.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (7 children)

So was the blockade. and they did nothing about it . bunch of spineless hypocrites

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Wait! I know what Borrell will do: expel Israel from Eurovision! That will serve them right and start behaving!

I don't expect much more from anything leaded by Borrell. We know him well in Spain.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm surprised they haven't used phosphorus on Gaza yet.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Where’s Egypt in all of this? Are they going to send aid through the border? Or are IDF goons guarding the border with Egypt as well?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Last I heard Egypt readied a bunch of vehicles to evacuate people. Israel has bombed or shelled the crossing.

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