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[–] [email protected] 63 points 7 months ago (8 children)

It's often cheaper to buy fastfood than healthy food

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It is a fair point, being obese and poor can definitely be a a horrific feedback loop to get out of.

In developed countries anyways, you don't really see it in places where food is scarce, of course.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

This is just wrong, the tiny island nation of Nauru have a huge obesity problem as the only food they can get in any decent quantity are preprocessed food with very low nutritional value.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don't know about that. A combo meal at McDonald's is inching closer to 15$ in a lot of places. You can go down to the grocery store and get a good amount of food for that much. Healthy doesn't necessarily mean only the expensive organic, free range, non GMO whatever foods are worth eating.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (9 children)

It's more than just the monetary investment though. It's time and energy spent creating healthy meals, that if you're working 12-14 hr days just becomes too much to handle.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That and food deserts. A lot of poor places in the US lack easy access to nutritious food.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn't say cheaper, but it's definitely easier.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If time is money, than fastfood and processed foods are way cheaper than healthy options that require preparing and cleaning of pots/pans etc

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Fast food implies prepared food. What healthy prepared food are you thinking of? It's generally much cheaper. Ops post makes no sense. Poverty is not inversely proportional to weight at all

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 7 months ago

I got fat af when I was piss broke. When I could start to afford things other than carbs, the lbs starting going away.

I get there are people even more broke who can't even afford rice, but don't assume that being fat and being poor run contrary to each other. Shit food is cheap.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Not really. The cheapest food is often loaded with fat and sugar

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Poverty is strongly correlated with obesity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

It's easy to get. Healthy and nutritious food can be more costly, and being poor you have very limited amount of funds. It can take more effort to make and being poor, you might have much less time for yourself and have a physically or mentally pretty crushing job so less energy to prepare food. It might not be as satisfying for the brain as unhealthy food, and being poor thing might suck balls so you might not want to give that up and just want something good in your life that makes you a bit happier, even if it is not great for your body.

Last part is true for beer related weight gain too. And lot of it goes for having active and healthy lifestyle.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

This.

Also, food deserts are a thing. Poor communities often don't have access to good food, at all.

It's expensive to be poor, and in this case the price is in one's health.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago

No, it makes you fat on a nice white carb and grease diet. Let's be realistic, we have calorie sufficiency in the developed world, it's malnutrition in the face of excess calories that is the problem.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (11 children)

Yeah, no.

First: eating strictly healthy is more expensive than eating trash.

Second: Time. Poor people tend to have less of it available, which means that it's harder to cook meals at home (which, in theory, should be cheaper to eat healthy). That same lake of time also makes exercise challenging.

Until you get to the point of poverty where you're risking starvation, poor people are more likely to be overweight than people that are in better circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (9 children)

I feel like way too much emphasis is put on cost. It's really easy to find cheap stuff to eat that is healthy. It's almost all of the second point: it just takes time and effort.

If you want to eat quick with little effort, it's cheaper to eat unhealthy. Which is ultimately the problem. But if you put in the time to cook for yourself, it isn't. It's almost more expensive to eat unhealthy if you spend time to prepare and cook.

And I think too many people use this as an excuse to eat unhealthy. "Well, it's too expensive, so I might as well not even try. Let me go get McDonald's."

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago

Not really true, in fact starvation is so rare that for the first time in human history more people are dying of obesity related maladies than of starvation or deficiency of some kind.

The poor have never been so well fattened up in history, we've some the fuck how overcorrected, they're not failing to find bread anymore, they're taking to well note that the twinkies are cheaper for the calorie and more available at quantity for a standard sized family.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But, the poor people are the fattest ones.

OP is stuck in the XIXth century (which is valid, I'm not century shaming!).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Depends on what you call poor.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Yeah, probably taking America poor, not Africa poor.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

You have to be really poor to lose weight because of it. Cheaper food is usually high in calories and low in nutrition.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

I remember detoxing from alcohol and I could not even stand the smell of food for days and weeks. I felt like it will always be like that and I would never be able to eat more than 3 spoons a day. It felt like I would never have problems with my weight again.

So my weight loss tip is to just become an alcoholic and then stop drinking alcohol, you'll lose a crapton of weight, problem solved!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

most poor people have higher BMIs than wealthy people on average. Poverty is far more likey to make you fat...in USA anyway

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

Not really, because it's easier to get high carb crap food. Most of what food shelves have that isn't produce is carbs and sugar.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

I'm diabetic and cannot get the ozempic I am prescribed with because there isn't enough because of people that want to lose a few kg

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Extreme poverty definitely, but if you're just below the poverty line then sugary foods are typically still cheap enough to buy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Self loathing works great too

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I’ve had this experience; the poverty, not ozempic. I didn’t have a job first year of college and basically starved. My BMI was under 18. Everyone said my eyes looked sunken.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I takes abject poverty to lose weight though. Carbs are cheap and highly addicting. Poverty often brings a high bmi but poor nutrition.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Crack works too

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Where can I get a prescription for this "poverty"?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I've got some! Real high-quality stuff. Wanna trade?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Have you tried eating less?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Depression in combination with poverty, sure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

True that. My health fucking skyrocketed after getting approved for food stamps.

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