Technology

"Djinn", specifically, being the correct word choice. We're way past fun-loving blue cartoon Robin Williams genies granting wishes, doing impressions of Jack Nicholson and getting into madcap hijinks. We're back into fuckin'... shapeshifting cobras woven of fire and dust by the archdevil Iblis, hiding in caves and slithering out into the desert at night to tempt mortal men to sin. That mythologically-accurate shit.

Doesn't mean distribution should be legal.

People are going to do what they're going to do, and the existence of this isn't an argument to put spyware on everyone's computer to catch it or whatever crazy extreme you can take it to.

But distributing nudes of someone without their consent, real or fake, should be treated as the clear sexual harassment it is, and result in meaningful criminal prosecution.

People have been Photoshopping this kind of thing since before there was Photoshop. Why "AI" being involved matters is beyond me

Because now it's faster, can be generated in bulk and requires no skill from the person doing it.

I hate this: "Just accept it women of the world, accept the abuse because it's the new normal" techbro logic so much. It's absolutely hateful towards women.

We have legal and justice systems to deal with this. It is not the new normal for me to be able to make porn of your sister, or mother, or daughter. Absolutely fucking abhorrent.

I suck at Photoshop and Ive tried many times to get good at it over the years. I was able to train a local stable diffusion model on my and my family's faces and create numerous images of us in all kinds of situations in 2 nights of work. You can get a snap of someone and have nudes of them tomorrow for super cheap.

I agree there is nothing to be done, but it's painfully obvious to me that the scale and ease of it that makes it much more concerning.

The same reason AR15 rifles are different than muskets

once non-consensual pornography (which deepfakes are classified as) is made public over half of people involved will have the urge to kill themselves.

Not saying that they are justified or anything but wouldn't people stop caring about them when they reach a critical mass? I mean if everyone could make fakes like these, I think people would care less since they can just dismiss them as fakes.

I have no sympathy for the people who are being scammed here, I hope they lose hundreds to it. Making fake porn of somebody else without their consent, particularly that which could be mistaken for real if it were to be seen by others, is awful.

I wish everyone involved in this use of AI a very awful day.

it's a "I don't know tech" tax

The people being exploited are the ones who are the victims of this, not people who paid for it.

That's like 80% of the IT industry.

IDK, $10 seems pretty reasonable to run a script for someone who doesn't want to. A lot of people have that type of arrangement for a job...

That said, I would absolutely never do this for someone, I'm not making nudes of a real person.

Scam is another thing. Fuck these people selling.

But fuck dude they aren't taking advantage of anyone buying the service. That's not how the fucking world works. It turns out that even you have money you can post for people to do shit like clean your house or do an oil change.

NOBODY on that side of the equation are bring exploited 🤣

Pretty sure we will see fake political candidates that actually garner votes soon here.

To differentiate from celebrities.

Because it's different to somebody going online and finding a stock picture of Taylor Swift

It's a far cry from making weird memes to making actual porn. Especially when it's not easily seen as fake.

They're making pornography of women who are not consenting to it when that is an extremely invasive thing to do that has massive social consequences for women and girls. This could (and almost certainly will) be used on kids too right, this can literally be a tool for the production of child pornography.

Even with regards to adults, do you think this will be used exclusively on public figures? Do you think people aren't taking pictures of their classmates, of their co-workers, of women and girls they personally know and having this done to pictures of them? It's fucking disgusting, and horrifying. Have you ever heard of the correlation between revenge porn and suicide? People literally end their lives when pornographic material of them is made and spread without their knowledge and consent. It's terrifyingly invasive and exploitative. It absolutely can and must be illegal to do this.

Seems to fall under any other form of legal public humiliation to me, UNLESS it is purported to be true or genuine. I think if there’s a clear AI watermark or artists signature that’s free speech. If not, it falls under Libel - false and defamatory statements or facts, published as truth. Any harmful deep fake released as truth should be prosecuted as Libel or Slander, whether it’s sexual or not.