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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

The fastest internet, hampered by the Great Firewall

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Enterprises, sure.

Homes? Why? I can't even find a good use for a single gigabit download for personal use. Being able to download a new game in 3 minutes rather than 5 isn't something I'm willing to pay additional money every month to get. Remote desktops, video streaming, gaming, there's nothing uses that much bandwidth even in my household of 5 people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Hong Kong is extremely small. Offering the service to both (and oversubscribing the hell out of 50G) is extremely simple, since a business might be anywhere including close to consumers, so you're building the infra regardless.

I don't think it makes sense for most people to pay for this, but in 1998 you would have said "we will never need more than aDSL for the consumer" yet here we are with 1G/ 5G links to the home that are getting actually saturated.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You should set up Radarr/Sonarr w/Usenet, that'll saturate your connection lmao, while you're setting that up throw up a Plex/Jellyfin server to lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Ok sure, but at that point consumer hardware will not be able to do that. Try finding a consumer router capable of more than 2.5gbit, let alone more than 10.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's always a "chicken or the egg" situation. Right now, there isn't much need for a home router with anything faster than a 1Gbps port. In the prosumer space 10Gbps is available, but it's not super cheap (about $300 with SFP module). But, if something like 50Gbps becomes common, manufacturers will be incentivized to make products for it. The economies of scale and the effects of competition will kick in and prices will come down.

I'm old. I was at one of the events where Intel announced 1Gbps over copper. This was supposed to be impossible, there was no way to push 1Gbps over Cat-5 cables. But, with Cat-5e and Cat-6, they had cracked it. At the time, there was no way this was ever going to be a cheap technology and it was intended for large enterprises for major switch interconnect runs. Now it's everywhere.

Maybe 50Gbps to the home won't happen. And this is just some exec blowing smoke. But, maybe they'll do it and kick off the market for cheaper equipment in that class. While I do agree that we're lacking the "killer app" to make that much bandwidth to the home necessary. Things like music and video streaming came about after the advent of faster speeds. It wasn't until we had DSL that people realized that streaming music, in real time, would be a thing. We needed the bandwidth to be there for the use cases to be discovered.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

There are a few router with 10gbps ports on the market, like asus gt-be98 pro. They don't actually run 10gbps since the processors can't keep up, but they do run well above 2.5gbps.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Medal of Honour VR is 180GB, or about 24 minutes if your download speed never falls below the advertised speed. And that's even a 'nice' example, some of the super large games like Call of Duty and MS Flight Sim update between every time you find time to play and make you download hundreds of gigabytes.

And to say nothing of node_modules.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Ain't this the truth.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Half the comments be like:

China has fast internet

But at what cost?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

That's sick. We're getting a new fiber network in my city and we'll top out at 10gbit. I'm probably not paying for that (would be >$200/month), but it's nice to know it exists. Who knows, with the rate of web bloat, maybe I'll eventually need it...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I just got gigabit. These folks are getting 50?!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Damnit! I just got 20...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Meanwhile sitting here with 50 Mbps that costs probably more then the 50Gbps in Hong Kong

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

To spy on people better!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm betting most people will only have 1gbps capable hardware and cables

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

@dutchkimble @schizoidman Likely true. It may be justifiable in a commercial setting but in a home? Just how many HD streams would you need to run to suck up that much bandwidth?
I get regular calls from my ISP to upgrade to a 1.5GB package (we have #Fibe in this neighborhood). No thanks - the 150Mb I'm paying for is more than enough (but then, our kids have moved out so perhaps I'm not a typical household).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah true you don't need that, I share a gig between 8 people at home and am more than happy