BlameThePeacock

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Israel went to war because they were invaded by 5 other countries who weren't happy with the lines the UN agreed upon.

This fight wasn't just inevitable, it's been an ongoing fight for thousands of years, Arabs have been attacking Jewish people for literally thousands of years in that region.

When the Ottoman empire collapsed because they supported the wrong side in the war, the victors got to decide what happened with it. You don't get to lose a war, then just go back to peaceful enjoyment of your land like nothing happened. Wars have consequences. Maybe Palestinians should have done something about that before allowing their country to join world war one.

Even Germany lost land to it's neighbors during the wars. I don't see anyone here complaining about that land being colonized.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 hours ago

How exactly do you "colonize" a region that your ancestors been on for 2000+ years?

Remember, the first massive waves of Jewish people moving to Israel literally came there from concentration camps, refugee camps, and other displaced locations because of what happened around the world wars.

Of course it was a settler project, around 6 million Jewish people were killed in the holocaust, you think they all wanted to move back in next to the neighbors that had ratted them out to the government? They got absolutely fucked, and the UN had given them their ancestral homeland back when it broke up the country that had been in that region and lost in the great war.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Outraged that they're now being used against them? Israel spent literally tens of billions of dollars on a missile defence system to reduce the effect of rocket attacks. They've been pissed off at Palestinians and other terrorist groups for attacking them for a very long time, in fact literally since the day after they declared independence and got invaded by 5 of the neighboring countries.

Your logic in no way helps your argument. If it's actually a war that both sides want, then what the fuck are we doing complaining about civilian deaths on one side being lopsided? Should bigger countries always have to deal with smaller groups with kid gloves on? That's just stupid, wars aren't about being fair.

You can want them to stop fighting, but both of them want to be fighting right now. You aren't going to pull them apart like in a bar fight, there's no way to physically separate these two groups.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

PA doesn't operate in Gaza.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Palestinians support attacking civilians in Israel. That makes it a war.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 hours ago

They lost support when they saw the consequences of their choices. That still makes them terrorist sympathizers, they had to support it initially in order to abandon support.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 hours ago (6 children)

They still support an act of mass violence against civilians, so it makes them hypocritical when they condemn the current mass violence against their own civilians.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 hours ago

Does it really matter? They supported it for at least a few months after it happened. They were happy that Hamas killed a thousand Israeli civilians and took hostages.

That being said, I mentioned it has dropped because of the consequences they faced, the latest numbers came out yesterday or the day before. It's now down to 39% support for the attack.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/palestinian-poll-finds-big-drop-support-oct-7-attack-2024-09-17/

 

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