Health wise they’re the same thing. Flavor wise Sugar in the Raw (turbinado sugar) has a little bit of molasses in it so the flavor is slightly different. I think using it in coffee and tea is a waste personally, but it’s very good on top of baked goods.
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I use it in coffee specifically because I don't want the hyper sweetness that white sugar provides. I think that the molasses takes the edge out of the coffee which allows me to use less of it. It could also be a mental thing but I'm still using less sugar so..
That’s fair! I’m just not a fan of the taste in drinks personally, as long as you like it that’s what matters.
I was tricked into believing the health thing I guess but I have always preferred it because the taste is different. White sugar is almost too sweet for a lot of things, which I know is a ridiculous statement to say about sugar.
It's Turbinado sugar. Essentially brown sugar but bigger crystals.
People want it because it's less refined compared to white sugar and still contains molasses.
I assume the fact that the crystals are bigger means you require more.
I assume the fact that the crystals are bigger means you require more.
OP seems to be using it to sweeten a drink, so the crystal size should only affect how long it takes to dissolve, not how sweet it tastes. The additional flavor from the molasses might make it seem a little less sweet than white sugar, but only a little.
the crystal size should only affect how long it takes to dissolve, not how sweet it tastes
Unless OP isn’t giving the crystals sufficient time to dissolve, which would give it the appearance of having less sweetening power
Which is pretty much guaranteed with a cold drink. Any other brand of "natural" cane sugar has normal sized crystals, its really annoying getting these stupid big crystals in a coffee shop.
Man, I'm a crazy bastard, as I just put molasses in my coffee.
It's just sugar with a teensy bit of the natural brown color from unrefined molasses left in it. I don't find your observation that it takes 5 or 10 times as much of it to sweeten something to be true for me whatsoever, it's almost exactly the same, and leaves me wondering if perhaps you also find that today's low-flow toilets need to be flushed dozens of times to work, or that you turn on modern showers and just a tiny trickle comes out :)
Websearch told me that what you're calling "sugar in the raw" is simply a type of "naturally" brown sugar (instead of extracting the molasses, concentrating them, and putting them back, you simply remove the water). If that's correct:
Calories-wise it's roughly the same deal as refined sugar. It should contain a bit more iron, but not enough to be a good source of. (Go eat some meat or legumes for that.)
Main difference is a more complex flavour. It shouldn't be meaningfully less able to sweeten things, unless not properly dissolved.
My first thought was that maybe the Sugar in the Raw packets have less product in them, since turbinado sugar is more expensive than white sugar, but a quick googling tells me that Sugar in the Raw packets are 5 grams and standard sugar packets are in the 2.3- 3 gram range. So if you use a comparable number of packets out of habit, you really are doubling your sugar intake.
So I think it must just be a solubility thing, as suggested below. The big crystals do end up sunk to the bottom of a cold drink undissolved. If it's a hot drink.. 🤷♀️
I suspect marketing bullshittery. I’ve bought “sugar in the raw” a few years ago to try, and it reminded me of back in In high school chemistry II in which I did an experiment where I took a brand name sugar and a lower budget brand sugar and examined it under a microscope. The budget brand sugars’ crystal structure was larger but hollow. Weighing the two by volume showed less mass for the budget brand. Putting the same volume of the two in a mortar and grinding with a pestle yielded less volume for the budget brand which means for the same volume you’re getting less sugar.
I believe that “sugar in the raw” does the same thing to give you less for more price, but compounds it’s marketing by telling you it’s unprocessed and more natural. Maybe that’s true but you’re certainly getting less product for the price. One would think less processing would cost less. The only difference from the experiment was that you were paying less for less. Kind of interesting how business ethics have changed over the years.
But isn't it all sold by weight? The same with how the calories are counted?
Yes, that is why the whole argument is a fallacy. I am all for eating the rich and taking down the corporations, but this one is off base. The "in the raw" generally means it is A. Made from sugarcane not sugar beats, and B. Unbleached.
I only use it in the rare event that I get coffee at a restaurant because it's usually the only actual sugarcane sugar they have for that.
it’s just as sweet as normal sugar so either it’s your own personal placebo affect or your not getting the sugar dissolved into whatever drinks you’re using it in.
Sounds more like you already destroyed your taste buds and react to placebo from white sugar.
Anecdotally, artificial sweeteners started getting linked to cancer and sugar in the raw emerged as a product aimed at consumers who would consider choosing it over sweet n low to be a healthy choice.
The reports of them causing cancer were based on studies of rats that were given the equivalent of 600+ servings of sweetener and had other issues such as how the autopsies of rats were conducted. They were basically guaranteed to find something. If you did the same study with table sugar or honey, those rats would have died of hyperglycemia long before reaching the equivalent number of servings.
TLDR: these studies are utter trash
I remember that now that you mention it, but people being people only read the headlines then as they do now and the public's perception was still changed.
I mean the cancer ones are, loads of things are a carcinogen in high enough quantities, but that doesn't mean they're healthy, eg. there's a fair few studies that show that overconsumption of sugar and the equivalent with sweeteners lead to similar levels of obesity
How about rather than being addicted to oversweetened trash and (likely unsuccessfully) trying to cheat the side effects people just eat a healthy diet?
People are going to eat and drink things that arent the best for them. Thats the reality. And if theyre going to do that, it makes sense to minimize the harm in a practical way.
As for artificial sweeteners being harmful, testing them at levels hundreds, thousands of times what is actually used is not the way to do it. Give me a mechanism for harm to occur that makes sense and evidence of harm that reflects their actual use.
Eating sweet things triggers a subconscious urge in the brain to eat more regardless of whether what you're eating next is sweet in the hope that you get to eat more sugar for energy. This is seen with both sugar and sweeteners, so eating or drinking sweetened things make your appetite significantly bigger and so you eat more energy than you use and gain weight... Sounds like a mechanism for harm to occur to me, but whatever
How about letting people eat in moderation? If I go out for a meal with family and get a dessert then so long as I'm not doing that regularly then I'm not going to become a fat fuck.
That's not an addiction then?
Moderation is literally the opposite of addiction so what you say is fine. What I'm talking about is drinking sweetened drinks with every meal and/or eating sweetened snacks inbetween every meal and/or having every meal be over sweet... Even eating dessert daily after your main meal of the day is fine as the biggest issue is eating sweetened food when you intend to eat after, so as snacks or during the main parts of the meal
has some minerals (but very small amount). l prefer the flavor if i eat it raw.
I believe it’s less about the calories and more about how your body processes it
There is no difference whatsoever how your body processes it. Both are sugar.
Others have pretty much covered it, but "raw" can be made by literally taking it out of the refining process "earlier" where stuff is still in it.
Or, more hilariously, by taking white sugar and adding molasses back. Like the irony of "pulpy" orange juice - it's not less processed, they just add pulp back to it at the end.